Damage from falling trolls...er objects

[Bauglir]

That sounds fair.


OK so now that we've resolved falling and damage where does the player go? where does the troll go? Since they can't occupy the same space?

Have I overstepped the bounds of the rules here?

I would think the Bull Rush mechanic would be the closest fit to what's going on here

BULL RUSH

You can make a bull rush as a standard action (an attack) or as part of a charge (see Charge, below). When you make a bull rush, you attempt to push an opponent straight back instead of damaging him. You can only bull rush an opponent who is one size category larger than you, the same size, or smaller.

Initiating a Bull Rush: First, you move into the defender’s space. Doing this provokes an attack of opportunity from each opponent that threatens you, including the defender. (If you have the Improved Bull Rush feat, you don’t provoke an attack of opportunity from the defender.) Any attack of opportunity made by anyone other than the defender against you during a bull rush has a 25% chance of accidentally targeting the defender instead, and any attack of opportunity by anyone other than you against the defender likewise has a 25% chance of accidentally targeting you. (When someone makes an attack of opportunity, make the attack roll and then roll to see whether the attack went astray.)

Second, you and the defender make opposed Strength checks. You each add a +4 bonus for each size category you are larger than Medium or a –4 penalty for each size category you are smaller than Medium. You get a +2 bonus if you are charging. The defender gets a +4 bonus if he has more than two legs or is otherwise exceptionally stable.

Now normally "You can’t end your movement in the same square as another creature unless it is helpless." but this is a special case.

I'd suggest after resolving the landing damage, that an opposed strength check be made as with a normal bull rush, with the loser being expelled 5ft in a random direction.

 

[MerakSpielman]

Don't forget the trolls get AoOs on the players when they're 10 feet away from hitting the ground. Because they're not taking a move action, from their point of view the players are entering their threatened area (relativity!).

Hell, as long as we have silly things coming up, I might as well point out another one.

 

[Mystery Man]

I would think the Bull Rush mechanic would be the closest fit to what's going on here

Now normally "You can’t end your movement in the same square as another creature unless it is helpless." but this is a special case.

I'd suggest after resolving the landing damage, that an opposed strength check be made as with a normal bull rush, with the loser being expelled 5ft in a random direction.

That just might work!

 

[Paladin_Of_Evil]

Don't forget the trolls get AoOs on the players when they're 10 feet away from hitting the ground. Because they're not taking a move action, from their point of view the players are entering their threatened area (relativity!).

Hell, as long as we have silly things coming up, I might as well point out another one.

But for an AoO, the players would have to drop their guard, and it would be hard to do that while standing still...

The players would get 1 AoO for each troll that either fell into their square or through a threatened area... If they were aware of the trolls. I would give the trolls the touch attack and 50% miss, but I think that I might give the players reflex saves to partially avoid damage or continue standing up.

 

[glass]

I'm assuming that the leaving the threatened area won't be a factor since my players (I don't know about yours) don't have a 30' reach.

They will be leaving the threatened 'square' immediately above the PCs heads just before they hit the PCs.


glass.

 

[green slime]

Well, the PC's would have to make Spot checks to notice the falling trolls....

If not, then they are surprised, flat-footed and have no AoOs to take (unless they have Combat Reflexes).

Secondly, while it may be a ranged touch attack, I'd definitely have a -2 range penalty to hit applied per 10 feet. And apply a +4 benefit to the target's AC based on the troll is only going to see the a smaller target: the target's head and shoulders from above, not the entire body.