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<blockquote data-quote="Neurotic" data-source="post: 7285162" data-attributes="member: 24380"><p><span style="color: #008080">"Besides not taking no for an answer and taking other people subservience for granted? Now, there are exceptions of course. But didn't you expect Kalveen to 'yes master' you and do everything you told him to? How often did he NOT obey? How far would you try to push him as your huntsmaster and protector? Should he prepare the bath for you in an inn? Fold your clothes? Now, you are a man of the world and you treated him fairly. </span></p><p><span style="color: #008080"></span></p><p><span style="color: #008080">But imagine some pampered dandy, spoiled heiress or someone equally out of touch with common life. They wouldn't even think about how much work their request requires. And if common woman catches fancy of a noble? If she does not fall to - sometimes quite vulgar - wooing, she just gets taken anyway."</span></p><p>Leonan seems to warm up to the subject</p><p><span style="color: #008080">"And woe to friends and family who try to defend her. In the end, IF she is lucky that the guy is serious, she may end up in unwanted marriage, but safe. Otherwise, used, discarded and forgotten. Or worse with a child and ostracized for it by other 'decent' people as if somehow she herself is to blame. Don't start me on what is wrong with nobility. Think on it for a moment and tell me, just on moments notice, how many of your fellow nobles can you list that would treat a dispute with a commoner fairly? How many have connections to the courts and have no fear of the law because they aren't afraid to pull those connections. How many guards, even if they caught them for something, will release on strict word from above? It was youthful exuberance - older nobles would say - they got into wrong company - whatever, excuses would fly among themselves, while commoners caught along them would suffer the consequences. PAH!"</span></p><p></p><p>He waves the hand away from him</p><p><span style="color: #008080">"Ask not what is wrong with nobility. Rather, consider how the system in which person is judged by accident of birth and not personal skill and valour is fair?"</span></p><p></p><p> [MENTION=5044]Charwoman Gene[/MENTION], you just pulled on character flaw <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neurotic, post: 7285162, member: 24380"] [COLOR="#008080"]"Besides not taking no for an answer and taking other people subservience for granted? Now, there are exceptions of course. But didn't you expect Kalveen to 'yes master' you and do everything you told him to? How often did he NOT obey? How far would you try to push him as your huntsmaster and protector? Should he prepare the bath for you in an inn? Fold your clothes? Now, you are a man of the world and you treated him fairly. But imagine some pampered dandy, spoiled heiress or someone equally out of touch with common life. They wouldn't even think about how much work their request requires. And if common woman catches fancy of a noble? If she does not fall to - sometimes quite vulgar - wooing, she just gets taken anyway."[/COLOR] Leonan seems to warm up to the subject [COLOR="#008080"]"And woe to friends and family who try to defend her. In the end, IF she is lucky that the guy is serious, she may end up in unwanted marriage, but safe. Otherwise, used, discarded and forgotten. Or worse with a child and ostracized for it by other 'decent' people as if somehow she herself is to blame. Don't start me on what is wrong with nobility. Think on it for a moment and tell me, just on moments notice, how many of your fellow nobles can you list that would treat a dispute with a commoner fairly? How many have connections to the courts and have no fear of the law because they aren't afraid to pull those connections. How many guards, even if they caught them for something, will release on strict word from above? It was youthful exuberance - older nobles would say - they got into wrong company - whatever, excuses would fly among themselves, while commoners caught along them would suffer the consequences. PAH!"[/COLOR] He waves the hand away from him [COLOR="#008080"]"Ask not what is wrong with nobility. Rather, consider how the system in which person is judged by accident of birth and not personal skill and valour is fair?"[/COLOR] [MENTION=5044]Charwoman Gene[/MENTION], you just pulled on character flaw :) [/QUOTE]
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