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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8945676" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>The lack of gods planar travel & collapsed environment combining to form a fantasy dystopian hellscape where people endure anything they can simply to survive is a big part of it. A (so far) unmentioned but important bit is that it's a true <a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CrapsackWorld" target="_blank">crapsack world</a> that can't simply be "fixed" instead of just balancing the least bad most acceptable options. </p><p></p><p>Trying to "fix" athas rockets towards <a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NiceJobBreakingItHero" target="_blank">nice job breaking it hero</a>....</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Free some city states & cut back on the sacrifices [ispoiler] Oops now nothing is maintaining the seal on <a href="https://darksun.fandom.com/wiki/Rajaat?so=search" target="_blank">Rajaat(?)</a> & we go back to the cleansing wars or worse[/ispoiler]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">overthrow an SK or somehow crush their army... [ispoiler] Oops... now the defilers are free to defile and you just removed the glue holding together the already wobbling jenga tower of civilization [/ispoiler]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><em>Use</em> the pristine tower? [ispoiler] <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤣" title="Rolling on the floor laughing :rofl:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f923.png" data-shortname=":rofl:" />are you <em>mad</em>?<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤣" title="Rolling on the floor laughing :rofl:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f923.png" data-shortname=":rofl:" /> [/ispoiler]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Somehow unseal athas's crystal sphere? [ispoiler] Gith, Mindflayers, all the gods from other settingsm dragonmark houses of eberron are going to rush in & colonize this hellscape as fast as you can blink [/ispoiler]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Find some stable source of water? [ispoiler] <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤣" title="Rolling on the floor laughing :rofl:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f923.png" data-shortname=":rofl:" />Yeaaaa... nobody's going to come for that<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🤣" title="Rolling on the floor laughing :rofl:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f923.png" data-shortname=":rofl:" /> [/ispoiler]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Leave the tablelands?... [ispoiler] You think that things are better if you get past the druids in the forest ridge(you dare trample those plants?! die!), the halfling tribes on either side(you look tasty), the tohr-kreen (who might fleshwarp you into a mindless monstrous slave?)[/ispoiler]</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">etc.</li> </ul><p>I didn't check slavery but only because brutal working conditions & captives of company town type situations work too. Battle of Blair mountain* runup but cranked to 11 for example <em>if</em> "slavery" is a problem... but either could work.</p><p></p><p>*Bet you didn't know it involved <a href="http://expatalachians.com/biplanes-over-blair-calling-in-the-air-force-for-the-mine-wars" target="_blank">this</a> level of force <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8945676, member: 93670"] The lack of gods planar travel & collapsed environment combining to form a fantasy dystopian hellscape where people endure anything they can simply to survive is a big part of it. A (so far) unmentioned but important bit is that it's a true [URL='https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CrapsackWorld']crapsack world[/URL] that can't simply be "fixed" instead of just balancing the least bad most acceptable options. Trying to "fix" athas rockets towards [URL='https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NiceJobBreakingItHero']nice job breaking it hero[/URL].... [LIST] [*]Free some city states & cut back on the sacrifices [ispoiler] Oops now nothing is maintaining the seal on [URL='https://darksun.fandom.com/wiki/Rajaat?so=search']Rajaat(?)[/URL] & we go back to the cleansing wars or worse[/ispoiler] [*]overthrow an SK or somehow crush their army... [ispoiler] Oops... now the defilers are free to defile and you just removed the glue holding together the already wobbling jenga tower of civilization [/ispoiler] [*][I]Use[/I] the pristine tower? [ispoiler] 🤣are you [I]mad[/I]?🤣 [/ispoiler] [*]Somehow unseal athas's crystal sphere? [ispoiler] Gith, Mindflayers, all the gods from other settingsm dragonmark houses of eberron are going to rush in & colonize this hellscape as fast as you can blink [/ispoiler] [*]Find some stable source of water? [ispoiler] 🤣Yeaaaa... nobody's going to come for that🤣 [/ispoiler] [*]Leave the tablelands?... [ispoiler] You think that things are better if you get past the druids in the forest ridge(you dare trample those plants?! die!), the halfling tribes on either side(you look tasty), the tohr-kreen (who might fleshwarp you into a mindless monstrous slave?)[/ispoiler] [*]etc. [/LIST] I didn't check slavery but only because brutal working conditions & captives of company town type situations work too. Battle of Blair mountain* runup but cranked to 11 for example [I]if[/I] "slavery" is a problem... but either could work. *Bet you didn't know it involved [URL='http://expatalachians.com/biplanes-over-blair-calling-in-the-air-force-for-the-mine-wars']this[/URL] level of force ;) [/QUOTE]
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