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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MrMyth" data-source="post: 4947732" data-attributes="member: 61155">Except it has a direct, tangible benefit: It makes the setting merge smoothly with the core rules, which makes it more accessible to new players (and everyone that enjoys those rules.)Downside? If it is done while preserving the main themes and elements of the setting, than the only complaint is that it is different from the past, which is no legitimate complaints at all.Also, I find your claim that 4E Dark Sun fans are "statistically insignificant" to be completely absurd. And clearly just outright wrong, given the enormous fan response from 4E players at the announcement of Dark Sun as the next setting. Look, if they fit in Dragonborn and the fluff completely doesn't fit in Dark Sun, that would be a legitimate complaint. But the fact is, they have shown they can completely revamp racial identity for Dark Sun with many of the other races (Elves, Halflings, etc). Why do you assume they won't do so as well for Dragonborn - since Eberron already shows they are willing to do so? Eladrin, Dragonborn, Tieflings - all were very smoothly placed in Eberron. Why expect they won't do the same with Dark Sun? I mean, look at this quote by Purple: "Dark Sun Elves were not Elves, Dark Sun Dray were not Dragonborn, Dark Sun Dwarves were not just Dwarves."Isn't that an argument in favor of Dragonborn being able to integrate smoothly into the setting? If you can have Dark Sun Elves who are different from Core Elves, why not the same for Dragonborn? What do you lose in making "Dark Sun Dragonborn", especially when they can already fit a pre-existing race in the fluff? You lose nothing, and you gain accessibility and character options. Man, seriously. Baker posts about coming up with reasons to put some thought into the geography of the setting, and this is cause for condemnation? A prelude to a 'trainwreck'? Yeah, there will be complaints about 4E Dark Sun. I think this thread has done a great job of proving how eager some are to start complaining without needing any actual issue to complain about.</blockquote>

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