Darkvision Ruins Dungeon-Crawling

[James Gasik]

Right. The way the math works out makes it disproportionately likely that someone will flub it, even if they're all skilled.

If I'm running my anydice calculation right, it appears that if you have four PCs with a +5 bonus (say, 16 dex and +2 prof at first level), the odds that at least one of them will roll a 9 or less and fail to successfully Stealth is over 90%. Make that a group of 5 and it's almost 95%. So with a party of five, even if ALL of them are good at Stealth, it's about a 1/20 shot that no one will blow it.

Group checks (50%+) are just a simple mechanical kludge to offset the broken math.

Hey it's not a problem, rather than make a check of my own that I'd just pointlessly fail, I'll just give another player advantage on their check!

 

[Bill Zebub]

It's ok that the goblins saw 3 of our 7 party members....on average they didn't see anything.

Their leader is a fat goblin in an grey overcoat named Sgt. Schulze who pretends to not see anything because he doesn't want to deal.

 

[Mannahnin]

It's ok that the goblins saw 3 of our 7 party members....on average they didn't see anything.

Their leader is a fat goblin in an grey overcoat named Sgt. Schulze who pretends to not see anything because he doesn't want to deal.

Does it work better for you if the mechanics mean that even if all seven PCs are trained and have a good dex, they will fail to Stealth and be spotted 98.48% of the time?

Is that a more verisimilitudinous outcome?

 

[Bill Zebub]

Does it work better for you if the mechanics mean that even if all seven PCs are trained and have a good dex, they will fail to Stealth and be spotted 98.48% of the time?

Is that a more verisimilitudinous outcome?

No, it's not good enough for me unless they all DIE and are forced to roll up new characters. I spit on those clumsy PCs and their dwarvish racket. L2Sneak, noobs.

 

[Mannahnin]

No, it's not good enough for me unless they all DIE and are forced to roll up new characters. I spit on those clumsy PCs and their dwarvish racket. L2Sneak, noobs.

Pffft.

L2Sneak? I think you mean, STOP TRYING TO SNEAK LIKE COWARDS YOU NOOBZ. Kick down the door and frontal assault is the way REAL gamers play!