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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 9070366" data-attributes="member: 6801845">You seem to be assuming that everyone has the same desire for detailed tactical that you have.&nbsp; In my experience, most people don't. If they do, there are fighter subclasses that have a few options, you can multi-class or you can just play a different class altogether.&nbsp; If that's not enough there are 3PP like Morris's Level Up.But I have players who really, really should have just done a champion fighter.&nbsp; I used to occasionally remind them to use even the most basic of abilities, action surge.&nbsp; I don't remember the last time they did even that or any of their maneuvers.&nbsp; They still have fun with the game, but tactical play?&nbsp; Not a thing for them. For me, I did a champion fighter and had fun with it because sometimes I just want simple.&nbsp; My last fighter was a Rune Knight that was a blast.&nbsp; I'm running a wizard now and (unlike a lot of people) use more than 1 or 2 spells but it's no more or less fun to play than any of the other options I've had.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 9070366, member: 6801845"] You seem to be assuming that everyone has the same desire for detailed tactical that you have. In my experience, most people don't. If they do, there are fighter subclasses that have a few options, you can multi-class or you can just play a different class altogether. If that's not enough there are 3PP like Morris's Level Up. But I have players who really, really should have just done a champion fighter. I used to occasionally remind them to use even the most basic of abilities, action surge. I don't remember the last time they did even that or any of their maneuvers. They still have fun with the game, but tactical play? Not a thing for them. For me, I did a champion fighter and had fun with it because sometimes I just want simple. My last fighter was a Rune Knight that was a blast. I'm running a wizard now and (unlike a lot of people) use more than 1 or 2 spells but it's no more or less fun to play than any of the other options I've had. [/QUOTE]

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