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Dawn of the Dead (2004)

Kai Lord said:
And how many of those news stories featured people dying for dogs they'd owned for no more than a week or two and that weren't even in danger?

I found at least one of a man dying to save a stray dog:

http://dailybeacon.utk.edu/article.php/8498

Note that the dog survived - it wasn't in much danger.

I'm not saying it's normal, or its wrong to think it's a stretch, but I can see how it makes sense. Like I said, I like dogs, so I can understand why someone would do that.

I've also read a rumor that the dog was supposed to be eaten by zombie dogs, but they didn't film it due to budget issues. I have no idea if it's true or not.
 

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mearls said:
I found at least one of a man dying to save a stray dog:

http://dailybeacon.utk.edu/article.php/8498

Note that the dog survived - it wasn't in much danger.
This has to be one of the more random hijacks, but okay, we can go with it. ;) First off, the dog survived only because the firefighters pulled it out. According to the quote from the Fire Chief, nothing could have crawled up the slope of the pond without help. So the dog would have literally died if it hadn't been rescued. I don't call that not being in much danger. Plus, two of the drowned man's dogs were also in the pond, so he obviously wasn't doing it just for the stray.

mearls said:
I've also read a rumor that the dog was supposed to be eaten by zombie dogs, but they didn't film it due to budget issues. I have no idea if it's true or not.
Well I'm glad they didn't go that route. That would have been incredibly silly.
 

Spoiler Alert!! Dont Read If You Didnt See The Movie!

Just saw the movie today, way better than the original IMO. The original was GREAT BUT the new one was very on the edge of your seat, at one point I was like good god slow down on the driving already your in the clear (the bus scene)! I was used to the old movies, I was like holy Crap when the things were still running after them! It was more intense. those damned things kept coming. look at the marina.
As for the woman and the dog, well after seeing all those things in the parking lot there would be no way in hell that Id go that route until it was absolutely necessary. as for the girl, Id be like well sucks for her to be that stupid! Good god what was she thinking. She was just lucky that she as in the gun store which would be the ONLY reason Id go there.
As for the food, sorry andy, Id go to Radio shack and fly over a remote control plane or car otherwise I hope you can live off of gunpowder and gun oil!
With those Odds sorry charlie!
If the dog lived up to the point when they found him Im sure he will go on by himself! I like CJ's standpoint, nobody comes in who might be infected and why take risks! Id live in that mall until I was on breadcrumbs.
Id also be putting on leather etc,, so the suckers couldnt bit through!
 

I don't remember the original. I have this vague sensation in the back of my mind that it was well, stupid. I just saw Day of the Dead recently and hell, that movie is pretty bad too. I'll have to rent Dawn of the Dead and see what the fuss is about and hope this vague feeling of a near comedy in the back of my brain is wrong.

I thought this was a good three star movie. Were some of the characters stupid? Of course. Very rarely does a horror movie manage to sneak away without a few stupid characters.

For me, I saw it with three other gamers. We all dug it and thought that the ending was fantastic. The whole island thing with the camera was great. We thought that the woman with the dog should've pretty much been left for dead, but also thought that they should've been able to shoot over some food some how. The music at the start, good old Johhny Cash and the loungue version of Get Down with the Sickness were great.

I can understand why some people didn't like it but to be honest, I've started to appreciate movies a little more for what they are, simple entertainment, than what I'd like them to be (consistant, intelligent and solid).
 

Personally I enjoyed Dawn of the Dead (2004) a lot. Where some of the characters stupid? Yes. Would there be stupid people making stupid decisions in reality? Yes. So I have no problem with characters in a movie acting stupid. I loved the music. It all just felt perfect. From Don't Worry, Be Happy in muzak when they first get to the mall to the lounge version of Down with the Sickness.
 

And where were cell phones and the internet? Nobody in the movie even owned a cell phone or thought to access the internet for info... Oops! Even if they were down, they should have been shown trying to access them! This is 2004, not 1978! :\
 

I was more upset about everyone rushing off through hordes of zombies to save the dog-chasing git. I would have sat back and said, "Well, she's dead."
 

I saw the movie yesterday at a matinee. I enjoyed myself. I think it is important that you look at the film with new eyes. Don't go expecting the Romero original. I don't mind the fast zombie gimmick but still find the slow stumbling version much scarier. The aspect that you know They will just never stop is terrifyng.

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The part that really bugged me was the speed of the infection spread. 28 Days Later had the same flaw. A blood born pathogen just doesn't travel that fast. You might lose a few cities but the military would step in and start some serious stomping. Radio waves move faster than mindless humans. Just shoot anyone that doesn't reply to a demand of response. "Say something", is a great and quick method of separating the Living from the Dead. They should have also armoured up some. They had access to sports equipment and leather clothing. They could have fashioned shields fairly easily as well.

As for the "stupid" moves made by some of the characters... humans under stress do odd things. Even suicidally stupid things.

I also think they could have "floated" a package or two to Andy at the gun store with balloons and a line. Once every few days would have keep him alive until winter. And once winter hit the zombies should start to freeze up. After that it's just a matter of heading North to safety. But I'm not a normal person, I'm a gamer. :p
 

Tetsubo said:
The part that really bugged me was the speed of the infection spread. 28 Days Later had the same flaw. A blood born pathogen just doesn't travel that fast. You might lose a few cities but the military would step in and start some serious stomping.
This was a flaw for 28 Days Later because the film specifically showed the source of the virus: the monkey in the lab. But Dawn of the Dead nicely left the origin a complete mystery. The news footage at the beginning suggested that there were simultaneous outbreaks in countries across the world.

This lends itself to all kinds of possibilities. It could have been a comet that shot past the earth and infected millions simultaneously, or perhaps it was a meteor shower that peppered the earth and spread the contagion. Or even a bioweapon used in a global terrorist attack. Its kind of cool to wonder about.
 

What they Could have done was start the movie out with the "recently infected" being the fast nasty people biters, and then as they became more zombified they could slow down to the classic shuffling dead.

I think the "quick-dead" version makes for some snappier action scenes, but they shuffling relentless dead Are scarier.

I think one thing, and it is a minor point, with going to the gun shop is they Did want more ammo too.
Although I would have grabbed a Lot more guns and Ammo!
Dude had to have some nice auto fire weapons!
Even some good semi auto Ak's and M-16s etc. would have been good to
Up that body count!!


Heh, the wait until winter was a good idea, at least if the food holds out that long. Since the food court should have enough food to feed a few hundred people a day(?) I would have the idea maybe they could out last the zombies.
Of course things Do go poorly with the whole dog inspired incident and that does change their plans a bit.
 

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