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<blockquote data-quote="DammitVictor" data-source="post: 9434704" data-attributes="member: 6750908"><p>I believed all the press about Dafne Keen not being in the movie at all until the last trailer. <em>They got me</em>, and I almost didn't even go see the movie because of it. And yeah... not enough Laura, but every frame of her screen time was pitch perfect. Like, I <em>made an exception</em> for seeing a Wolverine movie in which she wasn't Wolverine... but the movie itself just made me so much more excited for the prospect of her Wolverine movies.</p><p></p><p>They put a lot of effort into "disappointing" Keen fans coming into this movie, including putting her in <em>The Acolyte</em> to make sure she was in the house and covering up why she was in the house. They may not be planning to give me what I want, but they have <em>definite plans</em> for her going forward into the next stage of the MCU.</p><p></p><p></p><p>He's already aging out of the role-- cue the Matt Damon GIF-- but if I was going to get <em>really excited </em>for Radcliffe in the MCU, it'd be as Quentin Quire. He'd <em>crush it</em>, and he'd look amazing in the pink undercut. Or... look, I'd feel <em>really bad</em> about only recasting one of the Netflix Defenders, but everyone else was perfect and a ripped Radcliffe (with <em>kung fu </em>lessons) would be a brilliant Danny Rand in a <em>Shang Chi</em> sequel. Frog Man... if he gets to be a major supporting character in a Spider-Man movie.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Deadpool is canonically... very complicated. All of his iconic <em>bromances</em> are all very much brutally unrequited romances on his part and he's outspokenly sexually attracted to pretty much every superhero and many supervillains over the age of 30. He just doesn't canonically identify as any sexual orientation or identity and semi-canonically doesn't know what most of the letters stand for and he isn't part of the <em>queer community.</em></p><p></p><p>He's a weird old dude who pretty much had to come to terms with his queer sexuality in an abusively conservative military family, military school, and then the actual military... and then joined the <em>extremely queer</em> (at least -coded) superhero community as a villain to paramilitary mutant teams when "mutant rights" was still primarily an allegory to racial conflicts. He understands how badly he just wants to bone Cable and Spider-Man, but doesn't have the language to process or express how desperately he's <em>in love with them</em>, except by pretending to be pretending to hit on them.</p><p></p><p>Superficially, he's just walking a very fine line between queerbaiting and actual representation. When you dig deeper, mostly recently and only in the hands of certain writers... he's an <em>iconic portrayal </em>of Gen X and "late" Boomer men who never had the chance to belong to 20th century gay culture and feel profoundly alienated from 21st century queer culture. Like a lot of the best parts of <em>Black Panther</em>, I feel like those authors took a crap sandwich of <em>problematic with good intentions</em> and turned it into <em>provocative by design</em>.</p><p></p><p>[HR][/HR]</p><p></p><p>Have to say... I was <em>really impressed</em> with the opening three minutes. I've decided to avoid spoiling anyone else on the movie because it's the first time I ever walked into a movie thinking I knew what I was going to get and was surprised by the opening credits.</p><p></p><p>[SPOILER="Look, Seriously, if You Haven't Seen It Yet and Think You Don't Care About Spoilers, Don't. Just Do Not."]</p><p><em>"Look, we know the title of this thing so I know what you're wondering: how are we gonna do this without dishonoring Logan's memory? Well, I'll tell you how. We're not." </em>Followed by two minutes of Deadpool <em>literally desecrating Logan's corpse</em> and then two hours of the only possible way I could imagine a sequel to <em>Logan</em> <strong><em>not</em></strong> dishonoring the memory of either the character or the film. Every part of this Logan's story reinforces and reaffirms all of the themes of <em>Logan</em>, and every part of Wade's and Laura's stories in this movie tell us how <em>that Logan's </em>sacrifice mattered and that his heroism outlived his entire universe.</p><p>[/SPOILER]</p><p></p><p>Of all of the things I expected walking into this movie, I didn't expect that. I really, really believed that <em>Logan </em>was going to be the only Wolverine movie that would ever make me cry.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DammitVictor, post: 9434704, member: 6750908"] I believed all the press about Dafne Keen not being in the movie at all until the last trailer. [I]They got me[/I], and I almost didn't even go see the movie because of it. And yeah... not enough Laura, but every frame of her screen time was pitch perfect. Like, I [I]made an exception[/I] for seeing a Wolverine movie in which she wasn't Wolverine... but the movie itself just made me so much more excited for the prospect of her Wolverine movies. They put a lot of effort into "disappointing" Keen fans coming into this movie, including putting her in [I]The Acolyte[/I] to make sure she was in the house and covering up why she was in the house. They may not be planning to give me what I want, but they have [I]definite plans[/I] for her going forward into the next stage of the MCU. He's already aging out of the role-- cue the Matt Damon GIF-- but if I was going to get [I]really excited [/I]for Radcliffe in the MCU, it'd be as Quentin Quire. He'd [I]crush it[/I], and he'd look amazing in the pink undercut. Or... look, I'd feel [I]really bad[/I] about only recasting one of the Netflix Defenders, but everyone else was perfect and a ripped Radcliffe (with [I]kung fu [/I]lessons) would be a brilliant Danny Rand in a [I]Shang Chi[/I] sequel. Frog Man... if he gets to be a major supporting character in a Spider-Man movie. Deadpool is canonically... very complicated. All of his iconic [I]bromances[/I] are all very much brutally unrequited romances on his part and he's outspokenly sexually attracted to pretty much every superhero and many supervillains over the age of 30. He just doesn't canonically identify as any sexual orientation or identity and semi-canonically doesn't know what most of the letters stand for and he isn't part of the [I]queer community.[/I] He's a weird old dude who pretty much had to come to terms with his queer sexuality in an abusively conservative military family, military school, and then the actual military... and then joined the [I]extremely queer[/I] (at least -coded) superhero community as a villain to paramilitary mutant teams when "mutant rights" was still primarily an allegory to racial conflicts. He understands how badly he just wants to bone Cable and Spider-Man, but doesn't have the language to process or express how desperately he's [I]in love with them[/I], except by pretending to be pretending to hit on them. Superficially, he's just walking a very fine line between queerbaiting and actual representation. When you dig deeper, mostly recently and only in the hands of certain writers... he's an [I]iconic portrayal [/I]of Gen X and "late" Boomer men who never had the chance to belong to 20th century gay culture and feel profoundly alienated from 21st century queer culture. Like a lot of the best parts of [I]Black Panther[/I], I feel like those authors took a crap sandwich of [I]problematic with good intentions[/I] and turned it into [I]provocative by design[/I]. [HR][/HR] Have to say... I was [I]really impressed[/I] with the opening three minutes. I've decided to avoid spoiling anyone else on the movie because it's the first time I ever walked into a movie thinking I knew what I was going to get and was surprised by the opening credits. [SPOILER="Look, Seriously, if You Haven't Seen It Yet and Think You Don't Care About Spoilers, Don't. Just Do Not."] [I]"Look, we know the title of this thing so I know what you're wondering: how are we gonna do this without dishonoring Logan's memory? Well, I'll tell you how. We're not." [/I]Followed by two minutes of Deadpool [I]literally desecrating Logan's corpse[/I] and then two hours of the only possible way I could imagine a sequel to [I]Logan[/I] [B][I]not[/I][/B] dishonoring the memory of either the character or the film. Every part of this Logan's story reinforces and reaffirms all of the themes of [I]Logan[/I], and every part of Wade's and Laura's stories in this movie tell us how [I]that Logan's [/I]sacrifice mattered and that his heroism outlived his entire universe. [/SPOILER] Of all of the things I expected walking into this movie, I didn't expect that. I really, really believed that [I]Logan [/I]was going to be the only Wolverine movie that would ever make me cry. [/QUOTE]
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