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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MechaPilot" data-source="post: 6826574" data-attributes="member: 82779">I'll definitely grant you that.  I just look at as more of thespian kind of thing than actually trying to be romantic with the DM.  For some people that can be difficult to separate, and it can lead to awkwardness.  That's one of the reasons why it's not a dealbreaker for me.  I especially understand it if the DM just wants to run a dungeon crawl campaign with very little socialization outside of bargaining with the dragon not to eat you, or trying to lie your way past a guard.Some people definitely take the rolling checks thing too far.  And some people also don't get that you may need multiple good checks to get the desired result.  Not every NPC is going to hop in the sack with you because you were really charming once.  It might get her to pay more attention to you from then on, but I definitely agree with you that a Charisma check is NOT mind control.It was just a persistent, nagging thing to me in that one instance where a DM ran a game where NPCs weren't even romantic with each other.  When one NPC who was otherwise a gregarious, overflowing type of person introduced his wife to the party and didn't even put his arm around her waist I was mentally just sort of blinking in disbelief, like Wily Coyote after an Acme gadget blows up in his face.</blockquote>