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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 6827228">You're welcome to run your games as you like of course.  At my table we don't allow non-con.  Going back to the OP this was actually one of the things I mentioned will make me walk from the table.  It's not a maturity issue, it's not an "adult"ness issue, it's just something I find unacceptable for the players to do to NPCs, or to be done by NPCs to players.My job is to present challenges.  You job is to solve them.  If every challenge was resolved by me giving you the answer, it wouldn't be a challenge.  The fact that you don't know something about what's going on behind the scenes is par for the course for every single D&D game ever.  You're not entitled to know.  You have to earn it by overcoming the challenge of not-knowing.Tough.  Sometimes success is beyond you and you will never know until you try.  Welcome to life: sometimes you do your best and still fail. But again: I DONT ASK.  Players tell me what they want to do and then they do it.  I don't play "mother may I" games and I'm not in charge of their actions.  You never know how hard something is, or even if you have a chance at all, but if you want to pick the lock using Handle Animals and a chicken, you are welcome to try.  Maybe in your games they don't, and if that's how you want to run your games you're more than welcome to do so.  In my games dragons are free willed and a good diplomacy check and some effective bribery could get him to take up residence elsewhere and no longer be a threat to my game.  And why couldn't Orcus get tired of death and destruction?  Wouldn't that be an interesting story to explore?  Perhaps a good-aligned party could see to turn Orcus from the ways of madness and death instead of destroy him (since as a demon lord he'd just reform in a thousand years or so).  The BEST absolute BEST villains I have ever enjoyed were villains with real story, real character, real emotion and I think it would be much more fun to run an adventure through an Orcus who is questioning himself and his way of life, than simply a big fat blob of kill kill kill.One could also say: So you may imagine a PC has free-will but in truth it is just the PLAYER getting them to do whatever he wants in the service of the game he is playing.So thanks for demonstrating my point.</blockquote>

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