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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 6828073" data-attributes="member: 18182">Couldn't get through the entire thread, so hopefully I'm not being repetitious.My basic rule is, if I'm not having fun I'm gone . . . but there is one circumstance that came up like half-a-dozen times in my 20s and early 30s when trying to join new groups (with minor variations):DM: Roll up any kind of character you want. 7th level.ME: Can I use character bits from splatbooks?DM: Sure! Whatever you want. Use the general guidelines to purchase gear for higher level characters.Later, show up for game . . .DM: Sorry, I don't have that rulebook, so you can't play that character. Why don't you make a cleric, the party needs one.ME: Oooookay, give me a few minutes . . .Group begins to play while I roll a new character . . .DM: Okay, ah, your character wakes up naked, without any gear, in a prison cell.ME: What!?! Why did I waste all that time purchasing gear?DM: You might get it back!DM (to party): Ah, you're not near the prison in the dungeon yet, so continue on . . .Minutes to hours later . . .DM (to party): You find a naked half-elf in the prison cell who claims he's a cleric of a just god. But you don't know anything about him, so . . . . Oh, and there is a pile of clericly gear in the next room.PARTY: We take the gear and divide it up amongst ourselves. We now argue about whether we should release the naked half-elf from the cell and trust him not to stab us.PARTY (to me): Okay, we'll let you out, give you this loincloth for decency, and this old rusty sword to defend yourself. We don't trust you, so step wrong and you're gutted. You have to walk in front. Maybe we'll let you earn "your" gear back, if it's even yours . . . .GAH, this basic scenario happened to me a bunch of times and it got so ridiculous! Each time, never went back. Sheesh.</blockquote>

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