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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AaronOfBarbaria" data-source="post: 6835992" data-attributes="member: 6701872">Regarding "planar arrangement", and risking further derailing the thread, I've always thought of each varying planar arrangement found throughout various D&D supplements and settings, such as the Great Wheel, the world tree, or the cosmology of Eberron, as being not actually separate sets of planes exclusive of each other and arranged as indicated by images provided. I've thought of them as being visual representation of the local commonly accepted representation, but with no actual objective truth to any of them - i.e. the great wheel counts the outer planes as being more distant, represented by being along the outer rim of the chosen pictorial reference chart, not because there is some greater physical distance between those places and the material plane, but because their properties are more different from those of the prime material and less predictable in their variation.My opinion being that there is really only one set of (an infinite number of) planes of existence, but different settings have different views of those planes and different methods for trying to understand their relationships and interactions. Perhaps that is just me, or perhaps not given that 5th edition's "multi-verse" appears to be in-line with this idea.</blockquote>