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<blockquote data-quote="Erechel" data-source="post: 7407912" data-attributes="member: 6784868"><p>There is no rule that prevents anyone to choke anyone. There is no rule for choking at all. Like there is no rule to kick the groin, nor to throw sand on the eyes of the enemies, nor to bash someone's head against a wall, nor to <em>any specific attack</em>. They could be modeled, instead, with the rules that already are there.</p><p></p><p>Saying that choking someone could be modeled as a grapple at disadvantage is only adjudicating actions. Modeling an action that a fighter could theoretically attempt, with a rule that it is already there. As it grants a <em>better</em> result, you give it some drawback, like <em>you attempt it at disadvantage</em>.</p><p></p><p>But of course, you could always go against the rules, and don't allow a fighter to do something that it is perfectly capable of, and negate anything outside the prescribed actions. Even if it is against RAW.</p><p></p><p>Quote:</p><p>"IMPROVISING AN ACTION</p><p>Your character can do things not covered by the actions in this chapter, such as breaking down doors, intimidating enemies, sensing weaknesses in magical defenses, or calling for a parley with a foe. The only limits to the actions you can attempt are your imagination and your character's ability scores. See descriptions of the ability scores in chapter 7 for inspiration as you improvise.</p><p>When you describe an action noy detailed elsewhere in the rules, the DM tells you whether that action is possible and what kind of roll you need to make, if any, to determine success or failure" </p><p>PHB 192</p><p></p><p>So, unless you think choking someone is impossible (and I don't see a reason why), as a DM you can assign an ability check (such as athletics at disadvantage opposed to athletics or acrobatics -target's choice-).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Erechel, post: 7407912, member: 6784868"] There is no rule that prevents anyone to choke anyone. There is no rule for choking at all. Like there is no rule to kick the groin, nor to throw sand on the eyes of the enemies, nor to bash someone's head against a wall, nor to [I]any specific attack[/I]. They could be modeled, instead, with the rules that already are there. Saying that choking someone could be modeled as a grapple at disadvantage is only adjudicating actions. Modeling an action that a fighter could theoretically attempt, with a rule that it is already there. As it grants a [I]better[/I] result, you give it some drawback, like [I]you attempt it at disadvantage[/I]. But of course, you could always go against the rules, and don't allow a fighter to do something that it is perfectly capable of, and negate anything outside the prescribed actions. Even if it is against RAW. Quote: "IMPROVISING AN ACTION Your character can do things not covered by the actions in this chapter, such as breaking down doors, intimidating enemies, sensing weaknesses in magical defenses, or calling for a parley with a foe. The only limits to the actions you can attempt are your imagination and your character's ability scores. See descriptions of the ability scores in chapter 7 for inspiration as you improvise. When you describe an action noy detailed elsewhere in the rules, the DM tells you whether that action is possible and what kind of roll you need to make, if any, to determine success or failure" PHB 192 So, unless you think choking someone is impossible (and I don't see a reason why), as a DM you can assign an ability check (such as athletics at disadvantage opposed to athletics or acrobatics -target's choice-). [/QUOTE]
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