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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7407918" data-attributes="member: 6919838">Straw man... Nothing more...I did not say a fighter could not choke a mage... I said (as a broad statement) about imptlrov action) the general principle of working how that is resolved into the rules and within the context of the rules - not as a way to bypass rules.The key difference is... Does a gm allow choking to be resolved as inflicting a much more severe penalty that gets around or shuts down a frigging ton other existing rules? Does he say choking prevents spelk casting? Does he say choking creates a massive damage type situation due to change of crushing windpipe?Does he rule that a kick in the groin can render a full hp foghter in plate incapacitated for 5 rds?The oft thrown straw man pretext of the bypass rules with improvs is always along the lines of &quot;you're saying it cannot be done&quot; when in reality what is being said is &quot;it can be done but not with the consequences you hoped for (in my game or within the context of the rules and mechanics we use.)You want you grab for the throat to be resolved&nbsp; stop the mage from casting... Well my bet is the barbarian with the axe wants his axe shot to hit the throat too and for that to stop casting too...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7407918, member: 6919838"] Straw man... Nothing more... I did not say a fighter could not choke a mage... I said (as a broad statement) about imptlrov action) the general principle of working how that is resolved into the rules and within the context of the rules - not as a way to bypass rules. The key difference is... Does a gm allow choking to be resolved as inflicting a much more severe penalty that gets around or shuts down a frigging ton other existing rules? Does he say choking prevents spelk casting? Does he say choking creates a massive damage type situation due to change of crushing windpipe? Does he rule that a kick in the groin can render a full hp foghter in plate incapacitated for 5 rds? The oft thrown straw man pretext of the bypass rules with improvs is always along the lines of "you're saying it cannot be done" when in reality what is being said is "it can be done but not with the consequences you hoped for (in my game or within the context of the rules and mechanics we use.) You want you grab for the throat to be resolved stop the mage from casting... Well my bet is the barbarian with the axe wants his axe shot to hit the throat too and for that to stop casting too... [/QUOTE]

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