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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Crimson Binome" data-source="post: 7409594" data-attributes="member: 6775031">Which is to say, more likely than not, the wizard can do nothing; they can waste time and maybe roll some dice, that will not have a meaningful impact on the outcome of the encounter in any way. Wizards don't have the stats necessary to make meaningful use of a dagger, and even if they did, the damage is irrelevant because they aren't a combat-specialized class and they never get Extra Attack. Thunderclap offers a Constitution save to negate. Steel Wind Strike, if I recall my obscure supplements correctly, would require them to be some sort of weird gish that could already use a sword; and the fighter wouldn't bother trying to choke that sort of melee combatant in the first place!If your DM let you get away with that, then that's on them. It's not a reflection of the game at large, or how the rules work at any other table.I will say that, if your house rulings allow you to disarm someone and get rid of their weapon entirely as one action, then being able to take shut down a wizard entirely as one action would have precedence at that table.Here's my ruling, as a DM: If you want to choke someone in combat, then it needs to be a surprise attack. They can't know that there's an enemy nearby, or else they would be on general combat alert, which would foil the attempt. Then you can make a Stealth check against their Passive Perception to get behind them, at which point a successful opposed Athletics check will allow you to cover their mouth in such a way as to prevent spellcasting with a verbal component. I'd even let you restrain them with your other hand, while you're there.Once combat starts, getting your hand around someone's neck is exactly as difficult as applying a dagger to their neck - you need to get through their Hit Points before you can disable them.</blockquote>

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