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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheSword" data-source="post: 7409689" data-attributes="member: 6879661">Couple of points, though Saelorn makes the case against the action better than I could.- Being gagged is for when you have already been disabled through surrender or knocked out. Not in combat. I know of no instance in TV, film or literature where a person has been gagged mid combat. At best it might be something you could surprise someone with.- With improvised actions the DM decides whether it is possible. Therefore it is not “against the rules” for the DM to say this is impossible.- Am opposed grapple check is far too easy a test for a fighter to do something that would be very difficult. Maybe if you passed an opposed grapple check where you beat the opponent by +10 I might let you succeed. Though this is passing well beyond the grapple attack action.- This definitely wouldn’t be accepted by my PCs if I tried this one on them. They would consider it grossly unfair, being shut down so easily.- While a DM isn’t required to follow their own precedents, I think it is bad form if they don’t at least attempt to. Internal logic and consistency. If the choker has a unique physiology - such as tentacle hands - then perhaps they can do unique things.- The fundamental disagreement seems to be that you think this is an easy action that anyone should be able to do. Others (myself included) see it as a very difficult thing.Yes wizards are good. However nobody wants to see an Archmage taken down by a cheap grapple check round one.</blockquote>

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