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<blockquote data-quote="Greg Benage" data-source="post: 8845400" data-attributes="member: 93631"><p>Did I say that? If I didn't, why are you suggesting I did? </p><p></p><p>Let me try to put it this way: If I'm a "first tier cleric" in a tough fight, I'm not going to spend my bonus actions and concentration on a 1d8+mod attack. If I'm a first tier cleric in an easier fight, I'm not spending a 2nd-level spell slot on a 1d8+mod attack. And after Tier 1, forget about it.</p><p></p><p>This is why I said "you're never going to cast this spell if you're even remotely trying to optimize spellcasting." I should have said "one" rather than "you're" -- I'm obviously not trying to tell you what you, personally, are going to do. And I use the term "optimize" extremely loosely, here -- this is kind of rudimentary spellcasting. In this respect, it's worse than a situational spell. I mean, we haven't even talked about the preparation opportunity cost. I literally can't even imagine a case where I'd regret not having this spell prepared. That sounds like a bad spell.</p><p></p><p>By the way...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They're all very likely to be "saving throw intensive" now that it's a concentration spell! That's why I suggested <em>bless</em> is likely a better choice for your concentration <em>even if you're alone</em>. At least you're less likely to lose it the first time you get hit by something. On the other hand, that <em>would</em> free you up to do something more useful with your concentration. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greg Benage, post: 8845400, member: 93631"] Did I say that? If I didn't, why are you suggesting I did? Let me try to put it this way: If I'm a "first tier cleric" in a tough fight, I'm not going to spend my bonus actions and concentration on a 1d8+mod attack. If I'm a first tier cleric in an easier fight, I'm not spending a 2nd-level spell slot on a 1d8+mod attack. And after Tier 1, forget about it. This is why I said "you're never going to cast this spell if you're even remotely trying to optimize spellcasting." I should have said "one" rather than "you're" -- I'm obviously not trying to tell you what you, personally, are going to do. And I use the term "optimize" extremely loosely, here -- this is kind of rudimentary spellcasting. In this respect, it's worse than a situational spell. I mean, we haven't even talked about the preparation opportunity cost. I literally can't even imagine a case where I'd regret not having this spell prepared. That sounds like a bad spell. By the way... They're all very likely to be "saving throw intensive" now that it's a concentration spell! That's why I suggested [I]bless[/I] is likely a better choice for your concentration [I]even if you're alone[/I]. At least you're less likely to lose it the first time you get hit by something. On the other hand, that [I]would[/I] free you up to do something more useful with your concentration. ;) [/QUOTE]
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