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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aus_Snow" data-source="post: 5332230" data-attributes="member: 29112">It's not even necessary then. Neither is the APG. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> There was a period of time there, where GMs of Pathfinder were getting along just fine without either. Quite a few still are, I suspect.Everyone sees game balance in a different light. As far as I'm concerned, the classes in Pathfinder are actually reasonably balanced. That's our experience (so far), anyway. YMMV, along with however many others'.There are numerous ways of looking at this one, too. Probably not a particularly fruitful topic to invite discussion upon, on these forums. Or any forums, perhaps. There's the old "you know it when you see it" take, I suppose. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/angel.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":angel:" title="Angel    :angel:" data-shortname=":angel:" /> Or, well, the somewhat "MMO-speak" roles. And whatever else. Not a thing that concerns me personally, but sure, there are a number of people who might've been turned off the game, because of said perceived resemblance. The only way to be certain is to decide for yourself, as always.Pathfinder and 4e are both minis-and-grid games, by default. Some say one more than the other, but I'm not sure about that. Either way, you'll have chosen a good game for such purposes.You could, yes. In many a RPG in fact, including 4e as well. And, for a small group of players, that might work. It would require more concentration and time to sort through abilities and so on, but hey, you can but try. Another option (for few players) using 3e - and therefore Pathfinder) is <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/classes/gestaltCharacters.htm" target="_blank">Gestalt</a>.As far as I'm aware, Pathfinder is pretty low on the error count. Relatively, that is. Amazon would probably have the latest printing of whatever, but you never know. Not a thing I would worry about.With that in mind, you should be OK with nearly any RPG. Just pick one that appeals, and have fun.Welcome, and good gaming! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>

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