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<blockquote data-quote="Jfdlsjfd" data-source="post: 8351001" data-attributes="member: 42856"><p>I am not sure I follow your systematic and general rejection of Thermian arguments expressed in this thread as if the fact that it was a Thermian argument was enough to make it invalid. Let's take another example: unless the PCs are systematically outlaws, there is a strong possibility that they will support, at least nominally, at some point, a monarchy, despite democracy being a better form of government. Players are probably using Thermian arguments to explain their support : &quot;our characters were raised in that kingdom and didn't conceive other forms of government&quot;, &quot;the king is rather benevolent&quot; or &quot;it's the setting that put kingdoms there.&quot; It is possible that they are supporting oppressive regimes in real life as well, but I suspect they are just considering that Thermian arguments are OK to justify in-universe behaviour. Same with the habit of killing criminals and taking their stuff. OK, it's an evil wizard, he killed people for his demon-summoning ritual, that's naughty and we're law enforcement and therefore... we kill it and loot his treasure? Err, of course very few people will support police force to kill and plunder in real life, but the arguments is often made using Thermian arguments that it is totally OK to behave like that. Outside of Thermian arguments, what would be the answer to &quot;why do adventurers think it's OK to loot the enemy's treasure after killing?&quot;</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Jfdlsjfd, post: 8351001, member: 42856"] I am not sure I follow your systematic and general rejection of Thermian arguments expressed in this thread as if the fact that it was a Thermian argument was enough to make it invalid. Let's take another example: unless the PCs are systematically outlaws, there is a strong possibility that they will support, at least nominally, at some point, a monarchy, despite democracy being a better form of government. Players are probably using Thermian arguments to explain their support : "our characters were raised in that kingdom and didn't conceive other forms of government", "the king is rather benevolent" or "it's the setting that put kingdoms there." It is possible that they are supporting oppressive regimes in real life as well, but I suspect they are just considering that Thermian arguments are OK to justify in-universe behaviour. Same with the habit of killing criminals and taking their stuff. OK, it's an evil wizard, he killed people for his demon-summoning ritual, that's naughty and we're law enforcement and therefore... we kill it and loot his treasure? Err, of course very few people will support police force to kill and plunder in real life, but the arguments is often made using Thermian arguments that it is totally OK to behave like that. Outside of Thermian arguments, what would be the answer to "why do adventurers think it's OK to loot the enemy's treasure after killing?" [/QUOTE]

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