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Demihumans of Color and the Thermian Argument
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<blockquote data-quote="Jfdlsjfd" data-source="post: 8351098" data-attributes="member: 42856"><p>So, if I understand correctly, if the question is "why are elves white with blue eyes and blond hair except the evil ones who are black?" and is asked IN SETTING, then "Because their god created them as such and he cursed the drow" is a valid answer, but not an answer to the same question asked OUTSIDE SETTING as "Why does the setting's author chose to have the elven god curse evil drows to be black?" To which a valid answers (but not necessarily good or true) would be "because he was thinking of the story about Apollo cursing crows and replicating it in his fiction, with both Corellon and Apollo being portrayed as dickish gods" or "because he thinks the audience will want to play Legolas from the LotR film, so all his elves are Legolas knock-off, even when Elrond had black hair" or even "because he's a racist and doesn't want black people in his fantasy".</p><p></p><p>Which would answers [USER=6801845]@Oofta[/USER]'s question in the post above about patriarchal societies in game: the answer to "why are you having a patriarchal society in your setting?" could be, without being a Thermian argument "because I am modeling said society to be like Romans, to convey both some familiarity among the players (and because it's easier to roleplay thinking "what would Horatius do?" than a going from a total blank slate) and a yet sense of strangeness that an ancient culture is to us?"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jfdlsjfd, post: 8351098, member: 42856"] So, if I understand correctly, if the question is "why are elves white with blue eyes and blond hair except the evil ones who are black?" and is asked IN SETTING, then "Because their god created them as such and he cursed the drow" is a valid answer, but not an answer to the same question asked OUTSIDE SETTING as "Why does the setting's author chose to have the elven god curse evil drows to be black?" To which a valid answers (but not necessarily good or true) would be "because he was thinking of the story about Apollo cursing crows and replicating it in his fiction, with both Corellon and Apollo being portrayed as dickish gods" or "because he thinks the audience will want to play Legolas from the LotR film, so all his elves are Legolas knock-off, even when Elrond had black hair" or even "because he's a racist and doesn't want black people in his fantasy". Which would answers [USER=6801845]@Oofta[/USER]'s question in the post above about patriarchal societies in game: the answer to "why are you having a patriarchal society in your setting?" could be, without being a Thermian argument "because I am modeling said society to be like Romans, to convey both some familiarity among the players (and because it's easier to roleplay thinking "what would Horatius do?" than a going from a total blank slate) and a yet sense of strangeness that an ancient culture is to us?" [/QUOTE]
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