Demogorgon: Lame or Awesome?

[howandwhy99]

Demogorgon = Awesome! I think most people use his cult of followers more often than the bad boy himself, but either way he's baadasssss.

 

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Demogorgon is prett cool. For the record the long neck version is the way to go.


I do have to say that he's no Juiblex though.

 

[Mouseferatu]

I do have to say that he's no Jubilex though.

Neither is Jubilex, since it's actually spelled "Juiblex."

And yes, I realize I'm just being pedantic, now.

 

[Wormwood]

Demogorgon always seemed to me to be the result of the Random Demon Features article from old Dragon magazine. Boring and needlessly baroque.

I may find a place for him in my 4e campaign---provided he gets a whole lot of love (and retcon) in Dragon. Until then, Orcus is far more compelling (if only because he's fat and brings a ton of undead to the party.)

 

[Jack99]

You're not alone; I do, too. I don't think people realize just how brutal and dangerous baboons can be.

And BTW, apropos of nothing, I'd really like to see a thread that consisted of nothing but you--Holy Bovine--and Keith Baker--"Hellcow"--in an extended debate. But then, I'm easily amused that way.

Anyway, the 4e picture isn't horrible, but I vastly prefer Shou's picture as well.

 

[Elphilm]

Methinks that the people saying "throwing random animal parts together isn't very demonic" haven't paid much attention to demonic imagery from real-world occultism, or the average monster from Medieval bestiaries.

That would be what I was thinking. Perhaps people would prefer something like King Bael?

 

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Neither is Jubilex, since it's actually spelled "Juiblex."

And yes, I realize I'm just being pedantic, now.

I don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Cas Liber]

Loved Demogorgon as Orcus' foil. At least these guys have inspiring names, and not some mush with lots of Z's and apostrophes. I always hated Graz'zt and Fraz Urb'luu (and Merenzobernezobaran or whatever the drow place was called)

Like the cover as an itneresting interpretation of Demo. I haven't played for 15 years until I just bought 4e so completely missed 3e stuff. I didn't much like the tone of Planescape either.

My biggest praise is that at least the MM2 isn't some shade of brown-grey-green muted tone - all the friggin' 4e books look too similar to me in colour!

Cas

 

[Phaezen]

Ari, have you seen, or did you have anything to do with, the Demogorgon stat block? Not asking for any specifics if you have or did, just curious.

More importantly, after that Bane article, did you having anything to do with the fluff for Demogorgon in 4e.

Spoiler

Quote from Firefly for yes

 

[TwinBahamut]

Methinks that the people saying "throwing random animal parts together isn't very demonic" haven't paid much attention to demonic imagery from real-world occultism, or the average monster from Medieval bestiaries.

Just because Asmodeus has three heads (one of a man, one of a bull, and one of a ram) and a serpent's tail in the Lesser Key of Solomon doesn't change the fact that it is lame.

I honestly blame these weird descriptions on the fact that some poor sap had to come up with descriptions for 72 different demons in order to fill out the Ars Goetia, and that isn't even the full list of the beings described within the Lesser Key of Solomon...