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<blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 9258427" data-attributes="member: 6779310"><p>They were training up weapon skills and general skill.s</p><p></p><p>I did the Cyclopedia math on the skyship... a typical small magical one is about 30,000 gp to make</p><p>The small skyboat is 25 to 30' long, 10' wide, with wood roof, hull, and walls</p><p>So, we'll treat the skyboat as a triangular prism 3×25×10 feet, 4" thick, with a triangle back and a 3×10x5' pyramid</p><p>the side is (25×√(9+25))/3 = 25×(√34)/3 ≈ 25×5.83/3 ≈ 48.48 cu ft per side, of which there are 2. ≈ 97.2 cu ft for the sides.</p><p>the triangle is a height of ≈ 7.1 and a base of 5.83, so two of them are a surface of 41.18 sqft, and div 3 for 4" thick, for ≈13.73 cu ft for the prow. </p><p>The back plate is a triangle 3×10, for 15 sq ft, and 4" thick gives 5 cu ft.</p><p>That's 115.93, just round up to 116 cu ft... add a second hull above (total now 232 cu ft) and a bunch of 4×4" posts 5' long connecting them ... 9 are 5 cu ft.... 11 gives us one every 5', and another 6 cu ft; hang tapestries and tie ropes for railings. </p><p>Heck, the walls can be unglazed 4" thick 3' , and we can add cross members every 2.5' on centers for decking... we don't want to woodform the deckplanks - we want to be able to get access under them...</p><p></p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td>Num</td><td>Spell</td><td>Spell Level</td><td><p style="text-align: center">Cost</p> </td></tr><tr><td>1×</td><td>Woodform: 1000 cu ft per. </td><td><p style="text-align: center">5</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">15,000 gp</p> </td></tr><tr><td>1×</td><td>Fly 1 per woodform</td><td><p style="text-align: center">3</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">9,000 gp</p> </td></tr><tr><td>1x</td><td>paying the caster wage, per SL</td><td><p style="text-align: center">[8]</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">8,000 gp</p> </td></tr><tr><td>====</td><td>===========================</td><td><p style="text-align: center">====</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">=========</p> </td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td><p style="text-align: right">32,000 gp</p> </td></tr><tr><td>245</td><td>Raw logs 7.2 sp/cu ft</td><td></td><td><p style="text-align: right">176.4 gp</p> </td></tr><tr><td>====</td><td>===========================</td><td><p style="text-align: center">====</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">=========</p> </td></tr><tr><td></td><td></td><td></td><td><p style="text-align: right">32,177 GP</p> </td></tr></table><p>Since a caster capable of woodform is 11th level,and will be able to cast the fly on the same day... this is a 1 day, 8000 gp profit, build for the caster. Gathering the materials (245 cu ft of wood...) is going to be the time consuming part. Wooden doors, finished, are about 10 gp, and about 3.5 cu ft. (3'×7'×2"=21/6= 3.5) so the planking is probably 5gp per 3.5 cf, and raw trees 2.5 per 3.5, or about 7.2 sp per cu ft of log... </p><p>This doesn't account for the typically 72% failure rate... so about 100,000 GP is a fair market price... the caster don't get paid his wages if the thing don't fly, but, as long as the goodies needed to cast flow in...</p><p></p><p>Yeah, I'm <em>that kind</em> of GM. I assumed the prior owner sold it off at just the spell costs because (1) they ain't in Glantri, and (2) Glantrian items are not well received in Darokin. And the merchant's reaction was good, the bargaining roll was a crit by the player and a fumble by the merchant, the player's offer came over the reservation price, and the wages didn't matter. </p><p></p><p>The party is also known to be associated with the Lione family - which is one part merchant family, one part thieve's guild, one part slumlord... And, being 6th level, they have the air of confidence...</p><p></p><p>Next Stop? They're planning to head to the fort to the east, so the wizard can get his missed level-up spells. Then to Alfheim, so the Elf can get his, and several can get trained in longbow.</p><p></p><p>Watching them scramble to buy the sucker? priceless.</p><p>Problem: none of them have a slot open for piloting.</p><p></p><p>Hence, they hire a pilot. They found one cheap (reaction roll of said would be was a nat 12) pilot - 10gp/month plus a full treasure share.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aramis erak, post: 9258427, member: 6779310"] They were training up weapon skills and general skill.s I did the Cyclopedia math on the skyship... a typical small magical one is about 30,000 gp to make The small skyboat is 25 to 30' long, 10' wide, with wood roof, hull, and walls So, we'll treat the skyboat as a triangular prism 3×25×10 feet, 4" thick, with a triangle back and a 3×10x5' pyramid the side is (25×√(9+25))/3 = 25×(√34)/3 ≈ 25×5.83/3 ≈ 48.48 cu ft per side, of which there are 2. ≈ 97.2 cu ft for the sides. the triangle is a height of ≈ 7.1 and a base of 5.83, so two of them are a surface of 41.18 sqft, and div 3 for 4" thick, for ≈13.73 cu ft for the prow. The back plate is a triangle 3×10, for 15 sq ft, and 4" thick gives 5 cu ft. That's 115.93, just round up to 116 cu ft... add a second hull above (total now 232 cu ft) and a bunch of 4×4" posts 5' long connecting them ... 9 are 5 cu ft.... 11 gives us one every 5', and another 6 cu ft; hang tapestries and tie ropes for railings. Heck, the walls can be unglazed 4" thick 3' , and we can add cross members every 2.5' on centers for decking... we don't want to woodform the deckplanks - we want to be able to get access under them... [TABLE] [TR] [TD]Num[/TD] [TD]Spell[/TD] [TD]Spell Level[/TD] [TD][CENTER]Cost[/CENTER][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]1×[/TD] [TD]Woodform: 1000 cu ft per. [/TD] [TD][CENTER]5[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]15,000 gp[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]1×[/TD] [TD]Fly 1 per woodform[/TD] [TD][CENTER]3[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]9,000 gp[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]1x[/TD] [TD]paying the caster wage, per SL[/TD] [TD][CENTER][8][/CENTER][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]8,000 gp[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]====[/TD] [TD]===========================[/TD] [TD][CENTER]====[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]=========[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]32,000 gp[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]245[/TD] [TD]Raw logs 7.2 sp/cu ft[/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]176.4 gp[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]====[/TD] [TD]===========================[/TD] [TD][CENTER]====[/CENTER][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]=========[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]32,177 GP[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Since a caster capable of woodform is 11th level,and will be able to cast the fly on the same day... this is a 1 day, 8000 gp profit, build for the caster. Gathering the materials (245 cu ft of wood...) is going to be the time consuming part. Wooden doors, finished, are about 10 gp, and about 3.5 cu ft. (3'×7'×2"=21/6= 3.5) so the planking is probably 5gp per 3.5 cf, and raw trees 2.5 per 3.5, or about 7.2 sp per cu ft of log... This doesn't account for the typically 72% failure rate... so about 100,000 GP is a fair market price... the caster don't get paid his wages if the thing don't fly, but, as long as the goodies needed to cast flow in... Yeah, I'm [I]that kind[/I] of GM. I assumed the prior owner sold it off at just the spell costs because (1) they ain't in Glantri, and (2) Glantrian items are not well received in Darokin. And the merchant's reaction was good, the bargaining roll was a crit by the player and a fumble by the merchant, the player's offer came over the reservation price, and the wages didn't matter. The party is also known to be associated with the Lione family - which is one part merchant family, one part thieve's guild, one part slumlord... And, being 6th level, they have the air of confidence... Next Stop? They're planning to head to the fort to the east, so the wizard can get his missed level-up spells. Then to Alfheim, so the Elf can get his, and several can get trained in longbow. Watching them scramble to buy the sucker? priceless. Problem: none of them have a slot open for piloting. Hence, they hire a pilot. They found one cheap (reaction roll of said would be was a nat 12) pilot - 10gp/month plus a full treasure share. [/QUOTE]
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