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<blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 4528796" data-attributes="member: 172"><p>That depends on your goal, really. What are you trying to accomplish here? What you'd get here is something that isn't really any better than the books already on my shelves. So unless you have some alternate goal, like being a reference point for creating reference materials (like OSRIC), then that doesn't buy you much.</p><p></p><p>If the goals at the heart of this product is to "update the 2e gaming experience" and/or "let me use my 2e stuff as-is", then a strict approach really isn't necessary or desirable.</p><p></p><p>If those aren't goals... well, I, at least, don't see any benefit in the project.</p><p></p><p>It's true that interested parties might want different perfections (the Pathfinder RPG forums should serve as an illustrative example), I think that it should be possible to come up with a list of most common bugbears and axe them, giving you a slimmed down baseline you can then supplement.</p><p></p><p>If I can pick on the post before yours as an illustration:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wasn't in the core and wasn't in most published materials, so if your ultimate goal is plug in playability, this is stuff that can wait for a supplement.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's a good streamlining.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's very easy to ignore them if they are there, and at the same time, replicating the table is a copyright sticky-wicket. I'd come up with an alternate <em>optional</em> method for those who want to replicate the experience. (An example might be a list of racial aptitudes that translate in another table.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>WAY optional, not representative of the "core 2e experience", and a lot of work to boot.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Possible, but making all skills/proficiencies D20 is a shorter leap from an OGL product.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes. This is a method simplification, not a truly substantial change.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>All of these sound like major departures of intent. Simplify, streamline, but no alteration please.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Something like that, yes.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So, in short, I think what Philotomy and Mythmere are points well taken, but they advocate more "truth to the original" than I really think buys you anything.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Psion, post: 4528796, member: 172"] That depends on your goal, really. What are you trying to accomplish here? What you'd get here is something that isn't really any better than the books already on my shelves. So unless you have some alternate goal, like being a reference point for creating reference materials (like OSRIC), then that doesn't buy you much. If the goals at the heart of this product is to "update the 2e gaming experience" and/or "let me use my 2e stuff as-is", then a strict approach really isn't necessary or desirable. If those aren't goals... well, I, at least, don't see any benefit in the project. It's true that interested parties might want different perfections (the Pathfinder RPG forums should serve as an illustrative example), I think that it should be possible to come up with a list of most common bugbears and axe them, giving you a slimmed down baseline you can then supplement. If I can pick on the post before yours as an illustration: Wasn't in the core and wasn't in most published materials, so if your ultimate goal is plug in playability, this is stuff that can wait for a supplement. That's a good streamlining. It's very easy to ignore them if they are there, and at the same time, replicating the table is a copyright sticky-wicket. I'd come up with an alternate [i]optional[/i] method for those who want to replicate the experience. (An example might be a list of racial aptitudes that translate in another table.) WAY optional, not representative of the "core 2e experience", and a lot of work to boot. Possible, but making all skills/proficiencies D20 is a shorter leap from an OGL product. Yes. This is a method simplification, not a truly substantial change. All of these sound like major departures of intent. Simplify, streamline, but no alteration please. Something like that, yes. So, in short, I think what Philotomy and Mythmere are points well taken, but they advocate more "truth to the original" than I really think buys you anything. [/QUOTE]
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