Desmodu as a race?

[Darthbelch]

I've hit a snag. After a player of mine stumbled across a Desmodu in one of his rpg books, he's been begging to let him play one.

I dont have much of an idea of all the advantages and disadvantages of having a player be a desmodu, can anyone help me out here?

 

[werk]

I've hit a snag. After a player of mine stumbled across a Desmodu in one of his rpg books, he's been begging to let him play one.

Maybe if you knew which book? We could read the monster entry and see what is what.

EDIT: MM2 - http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/mm2_gallery/88268_620_28.jpg I recognize this now...common belief on the boards was it was junk do to the HD.

 

[Darthbelch]

Bah...

Sadly I don't know what book it is. I would have said so if I did lol

Heh.

 

[Bad Paper]

I recognize this now...common belief on the boards was it was junk do to the HD.

Um, what?

 

[werk]

Um, what?

It is underpowered due to the HD. I don't have my books so I did a google search and found a previous article on them from ENWorld past. http://www.enworld.org/archive/index.php/t-39880.html

I'll check out my MM2 when I get off work if someone hasn't helped out before then.

 

[Bad Paper]

It is underpowered due to the HD. I don't have my books so I did a google search and found a previous article on them from ENWorld past. http://www.enworld.org/archive/index.php/t-39880.html

I read that link, thanks. I don't really see a problem with desmodus, except that they are hopelessly corny. They are CR9, HD12, LA2 creatures. Strange mix, between the fighting and playing of them, but my group is smack dab in the middle of Deep Horizon right now {please avoid posting spoilers} and seem to be doing a fine job of it. Desmodu are hit-or-miss monsters that average a CR9, but when you get them in the right situation, they will simply shred the opposition.

So far my biggest gripe is the absurd fact that a notbora weighs two pounds. A double-bladed weapon for a Large creature weighs the same as a Medium short sword? And it's masterwork, so it's worth over 600gp? Ha! I made them weigh ten pounds each, and even then, I think I am being unusually kind.

And I would certainly allow a player to take desmodu as a race, or to use one as a cohort or something. They are nifty monsters, useless in some situations, and pivotal in others. In response to Darthbelch's original question, yes. Just keep the ECL under control. A first-level desmodu fighter is approximately a fifteenth-level PC.

 

[Darren Ravenshaw]

They are also in Savage Species. I don't have MM2, so I don't know what changes they made to them(if any), but the one in SS have soild abilities for only a +2 level adjustment. Of course they have 12 HD, meaning that without a monster class progression their minimum level is 14.

 

[Darthbelch]

Awsome

Yeah, I just talked to him, he has the SS book. Im still a bit noobish at the whole "Monsters as Races" Stuff...so Uh....I'll have to do alot more reading. Ty guys.