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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 5009464" data-attributes="member: 8835">If killing an unarmed thing is murder, one could argue that's just tactics.  You always want to catch your enemy at their weakest, like launching a fireball into the sleeping orcs camp before attacking.At the simplest, murder is killing somebody.  At a more complex level, there are a bunch of social/legal expectations.Probably the key difference between justified homicide and murder is whether there is a societal/legal acceptance of the act.killing enemy combatants (enemy soldiers, orcs) is OKkilling in self defense of self/another during an active crime is OKkilling a non-hostile citizen of the town without a warrant, not OKhaving a warrant would mean that the legal system as declared him an enemy combatantnot having a warrant means the PC has no proof that the victim is guilty/evil of anything.  Just because you SAY you cast Detect Evil, doesn't mean anything.in the same way, self-defense relies on the fact that killing the guy during the crime is pretty obvious that he is guilty with minimal risk of mistaken identity.I tend to see the laws of D&D land being pretty open and wild-westish.  Namely to allow for Good PCs doing what they do, without making it too lawyery or nitpicky.</blockquote>