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Message: <blockquote data-quote="LokiDR" data-source="post: 351642" data-attributes="member: 6239">I would think this as well if you were actually seeing the person.  The problem is that detect, as some friendly poster mentioned, goes right through solid material.  Even if light won't get to you, the spell pinpoints you.Rel:  I think you should still have been able to get away.  The goons will not be able to find the monk, being invis.  It would take a few rounds of "Marko-Polo" to get his minions to the monk's square.  If the monk doesn'attack, the minions still get 50% miss chance.  The monk should have been able to run without a problem, if he wanted to.  It sounds like you were facing overwelming odds once you were actually fighting.  I would have run myself, once they spotted me by any means.</blockquote>