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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 8160766" data-attributes="member: 6779196"><p>No, the warlock’s thing was that they got “Minor Invocations” that they could use at-will (Eldritch Blast was one of these) and “Lesser Invocations” that they could use by spending one of your “Patron’s Favors,” of which you had 2 and regained them on a short rest. Presumably at higher levels they would have gained “Greater Invocations” but the Warlock disappeared from the playtest before getting the chance to get levels after 5th detailed. They also had no mechanism for actually casting proper Spells, but their entire spell list (which only went up to 2nd level spells, cause again, only 5 levels were detailed) consisted of ritual spells.</p><p></p><p>You can easily see how this evolved into the warlock we have today. “Patron’s Favors” became Warlock Spell Slots, with the effects “Lesser Invocations” becoming warlock spells and “Minor Invocations” becoming cantrips and Invocations. I would also assume that the Invocations that let you spend a warlock spell slot to cast a spell once per day and/or Mystic Arcana evolved from what they had in mind for eventual “Greater Invocations.” The Oops, All Rituals spell list became the Book of Ancient Secrets Invocation for Pact of the Tome warlocks.</p><p></p><p>What you might be remembering as the “warlock’s version of wild shape” was that every Invocation you learned came with some sort of cosmetic change. It added a really cool bit of flavor that presumably got scrapped because internal playtest era didn’t like having a class dictate how they could describe their characters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 8160766, member: 6779196"] No, the warlock’s thing was that they got “Minor Invocations” that they could use at-will (Eldritch Blast was one of these) and “Lesser Invocations” that they could use by spending one of your “Patron’s Favors,” of which you had 2 and regained them on a short rest. Presumably at higher levels they would have gained “Greater Invocations” but the Warlock disappeared from the playtest before getting the chance to get levels after 5th detailed. They also had no mechanism for actually casting proper Spells, but their entire spell list (which only went up to 2nd level spells, cause again, only 5 levels were detailed) consisted of ritual spells. You can easily see how this evolved into the warlock we have today. “Patron’s Favors” became Warlock Spell Slots, with the effects “Lesser Invocations” becoming warlock spells and “Minor Invocations” becoming cantrips and Invocations. I would also assume that the Invocations that let you spend a warlock spell slot to cast a spell once per day and/or Mystic Arcana evolved from what they had in mind for eventual “Greater Invocations.” The Oops, All Rituals spell list became the Book of Ancient Secrets Invocation for Pact of the Tome warlocks. What you might be remembering as the “warlock’s version of wild shape” was that every Invocation you learned came with some sort of cosmetic change. It added a really cool bit of flavor that presumably got scrapped because internal playtest era didn’t like having a class dictate how they could describe their characters. [/QUOTE]
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