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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jack Simth" data-source="post: 4194577" data-attributes="member: 29252">Let's see ... if I wanted to do it from scratch.....Step 1: Strip the current cleric down to little more than a spell platform - d4 HD, good Will save, spells, 2+Int skill points per level, 1/2 BAB.  Basically, remove the good Fort save, armor and shield proficiencies, spontaneous cure/inflict and Turn/Rebuke undead; drop the HD down two sizes, drop to poorest BAB.  Leave domains as they are - they work from the flavor perspective.Then we give the cleric player a few "points" for designing the class back up - say, ten points.Good Fort: 2 pointsGood Reflex: 2 points3/4's BAB: 2 pointsFull BAB: 4 pointsLight Armor: 1 pointMedium Armor: 2 points (includes Light armor and shields)Heavy Armor: 3 points (includes light and medium and shields)d6 HD: 1 pointd8 HD: 2 pointsd10 HD: 3 pointsd12 HD: 4 pointsSpontaneous Cure/Inflict: 1 pointTurning/Rebuking: 1 point4+Int/Level skill points: 1 point (also add two class skills to the current list)6+Int/Level skill points: 2 point (also add four class skills to the current list)8+Int/Level skill points: 3 point (also add six class skills to the current list)Now, you can't build the current cleric on that set from that starting point - the current Cleric costs 11 points.  But you could make a warrior priest (d10 HD, Heavy Armor, 3/4 BAB, Good Fort), or a roguish priest (d6 HD, 3/4 BAB, light armor, good Reflex, spontaneous Cure/Inflict, and 8 skill points per level) by the same rules.  Of course, my point system is probably waaaay off...</blockquote>

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