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<blockquote data-quote="Whimsical" data-source="post: 2343822" data-attributes="member: 3976"><p>I don't know if you know this, but NPCs can use their <a href="http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/skills/DIPLOMACY.html" target="_blank">Diplomacy</a> skills defensively. If the player's roll doesn't beat the NPC's roll, then it fails.</p><p></p><p>Just remember that there's a lot that you would do for a good friend, but there's a lot that you wouldn't do either.</p><p></p><p><em>Will the helpful street waif give the character the only piece of bread she's been able to scrounge up all week?</em></p><p>The waif may give her bread...but the request probably made her Hostile so the Diplomacy check has to beat that. If it does, the PC gets the bread.</p><p></p><p><em>Will the helpful king allow the character the use of his armies?</em></p><p>The king may really like the PC, but he is responsible for the defense of his realm and the welfare of the army. The king would probably offer an alternative solution to the PC's request that minimizes the use and risk of the kingdom's resources. But if he can't think of anything, then he may. After all, the PC presented a very compelling case why this needs to be done.</p><p></p><p><em>Will the helpful Wizard let the character borrow a powerful magical item for a year?</em></p><p>If you really like someone, you care about their welfare and wish for them to succeed. If the wizard determines that the magic item could help the PC survive and be successful in his enterprises, and the wizard doesn't have a greater need for the magic item, then he may. Although he may also offer an alternative solution that works best for the wizard and the PC.</p><p></p><p>Just consider that you probably have never encounted anyone in your entire life with a +20 diplomacy, much less a +30. If someone with a +30 diplomacy is speaking to you, it would be like meeting the first person in your life that truly understood you on a spiritual level. It would make you feel that the most powerful relationships you have had in your life have been shallow mockeries compared to how this person sees you. it would be like looking into the face of God and seeing Him smiling back and saying, "You are my most wondrous creation." Well, maybe that's +50. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Whimsical, post: 2343822, member: 3976"] I don't know if you know this, but NPCs can use their [url=http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/skills/DIPLOMACY.html]Diplomacy[/url] skills defensively. If the player's roll doesn't beat the NPC's roll, then it fails. Just remember that there's a lot that you would do for a good friend, but there's a lot that you wouldn't do either. [i]Will the helpful street waif give the character the only piece of bread she's been able to scrounge up all week?[/i] The waif may give her bread...but the request probably made her Hostile so the Diplomacy check has to beat that. If it does, the PC gets the bread. [i]Will the helpful king allow the character the use of his armies?[/i] The king may really like the PC, but he is responsible for the defense of his realm and the welfare of the army. The king would probably offer an alternative solution to the PC's request that minimizes the use and risk of the kingdom's resources. But if he can't think of anything, then he may. After all, the PC presented a very compelling case why this needs to be done. [i]Will the helpful Wizard let the character borrow a powerful magical item for a year?[/i] If you really like someone, you care about their welfare and wish for them to succeed. If the wizard determines that the magic item could help the PC survive and be successful in his enterprises, and the wizard doesn't have a greater need for the magic item, then he may. Although he may also offer an alternative solution that works best for the wizard and the PC. Just consider that you probably have never encounted anyone in your entire life with a +20 diplomacy, much less a +30. If someone with a +30 diplomacy is speaking to you, it would be like meeting the first person in your life that truly understood you on a spiritual level. It would make you feel that the most powerful relationships you have had in your life have been shallow mockeries compared to how this person sees you. it would be like looking into the face of God and seeing Him smiling back and saying, "You are my most wondrous creation." Well, maybe that's +50. :) [/QUOTE]
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