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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 2344452" data-attributes="member: 707"><p>True.Yep. This is an extremely diplomatic character we're talking about. People are going to start getting "good vibes" off him from the moment he walks up to them.I'm not sure why some DMs have such a hard time adjudicating Diplomacy. A Helpful NPC is exactly that, helpful. Nothing more than that. Take the child with the bread. Diplomacy means that she's going to treat the PC as a good friend, and go out of her way to help him. She'll probably split her bread with the PC. That means she's going to be a bit hungry, but she's willing to put up with some hunger for a friend. Would she give him <em>all</em> her bread, though? Probably not, because if she does, she's going to starve.</p><p></p><p>If a king has a very good merchant friend, does that mean he's going to loan out his army to said merchant friend at his request? Of course not. His army is for protecting his kingdom, regardless of how much he'd like to help his friend. But he might send a few soldiers with his friend to help protect him. Or give him a royal charter to conscript a company of mercenaries from the local fighters' guild.You've got to be joking. Just because you want to help out a friend doesn't mean you give them all your stuff. I have a really good friend named Kyle. I've known him since junior high school. I'd do a lot for the guy, including getting my arse kicked in a fight, if it ever came to that. But if Kyle came to my home and asked me to give him all my stuff, I'd laugh in his face.</p><p></p><p>Those foes/enemies might be convinced not to attack the PC and perhaps even help him in some way, but he isn't going to get them to give him everything they have, then abandon their former lives entirely.</p><p></p><p>Helpful means that an NPC is willing to take risks to help out the PC, but it doesn't mean he's willing to completely abandon self-interest and do anything and everything the PC asks. Not even close.</p><p></p><p>Also note that an NPC can be Hostile, without attacking the PC on sight. Hostile means the NPC <em>wants</em> to attack the PC on sight. That the NPC is that opposed to the PC. It doesn't mean a cunning NPC <em>must</em> attack the PC on sight, rather than plot against him in the shadows.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Pendragon, post: 2344452, member: 707"] True.Yep. This is an extremely diplomatic character we're talking about. People are going to start getting "good vibes" off him from the moment he walks up to them.I'm not sure why some DMs have such a hard time adjudicating Diplomacy. A Helpful NPC is exactly that, helpful. Nothing more than that. Take the child with the bread. Diplomacy means that she's going to treat the PC as a good friend, and go out of her way to help him. She'll probably split her bread with the PC. That means she's going to be a bit hungry, but she's willing to put up with some hunger for a friend. Would she give him [i]all[/i] her bread, though? Probably not, because if she does, she's going to starve. If a king has a very good merchant friend, does that mean he's going to loan out his army to said merchant friend at his request? Of course not. His army is for protecting his kingdom, regardless of how much he'd like to help his friend. But he might send a few soldiers with his friend to help protect him. Or give him a royal charter to conscript a company of mercenaries from the local fighters' guild.You've got to be joking. Just because you want to help out a friend doesn't mean you give them all your stuff. I have a really good friend named Kyle. I've known him since junior high school. I'd do a lot for the guy, including getting my arse kicked in a fight, if it ever came to that. But if Kyle came to my home and asked me to give him all my stuff, I'd laugh in his face. Those foes/enemies might be convinced not to attack the PC and perhaps even help him in some way, but he isn't going to get them to give him everything they have, then abandon their former lives entirely. Helpful means that an NPC is willing to take risks to help out the PC, but it doesn't mean he's willing to completely abandon self-interest and do anything and everything the PC asks. Not even close. Also note that an NPC can be Hostile, without attacking the PC on sight. Hostile means the NPC [i]wants[/i] to attack the PC on sight. That the NPC is that opposed to the PC. It doesn't mean a cunning NPC [i]must[/i] attack the PC on sight, rather than plot against him in the shadows. [/QUOTE]
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