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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jack Simth" data-source="post: 2345265" data-attributes="member: 29252">Even restricting yourself to core only, it can still get pretty scary:Half-Elf Bard 3, 18 Cha, Int 12+4 Cha+2 Racial Half Elf+3 Typless Skill Focus+2 Typless negotiator+2 Synergy (Bluff, 5 ranks)+2 Synergy (Sense Motive, 5 ranks)+2 Synergy (Knoweledge(Nobility and Royalty), 5 ranks)+6 Diplomacy RanksFor +23 at 3rd.Of course, that is eating two feats (your only two feats at third), and 21 skill points (all of them, for an Int-12 Bard) and basically gets you Charm Person at will as a full-round action that has a roughly .... -10 for rushed as a full-round action ... +13, Diplomacy DC 20.... 65% chance of turning anyone you can talk with from "Hostile" to "Unfriendly".If you can squeeze out Int 14, that same Half-Elf Bard can have eight languages at level 1 (Two Automatic - Common and Elven; two bonus, four burning ranks for the class skill "Speak Language") and one more for each additional level up to 3rd - so 10 different languages.  There are, what, 20 languages listed in the SRD?  Careful selection means that Cha 18, Int 14 Bard 3 can talk to roughly 95% of the intelligent critters in the MM.  By 5th, the Int-14 Bard could have all languages in the SRD the bard is qualified for (e.g., not Druidic).  And then, with 8 skill points a level, the bard can back fill some of the other more useful skills at later levels.  Meanwhile, this bard still has full spellcasting for Charm Person or something.</blockquote>

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