Diplomacy

[Goolpsy]

I do see the fun if it would actually work, talking a dragon out of attacking you. But its generally just to easy.. that level 15 paladin mentioned above could meet a level 80 NPC and make him helpful with a 20% failure on the check..

Until know i think, i said it would take 10 min to talk some1 out of it.. = 100 turns.. which seems ok, but in a game like d&d.. the battle is most likely over within the 2nd or 3rd round.

maybe make a Check minus will of the creature and then check on the table..
or Diplomacy - creatures HD... i dont know :/

 

[Goolpsy]

Furthermore, I'd probably not allow items, that add crazy amounts (that is, more than +10, pre-epic (Note: the limits in the epic rules in the SRD are based on the 3.0 rules)) to skill checks.

according to the epic handbook (3.0) its epic if it reaches a bonus of 31 or more..
which i do not really mind, really.. its ONLY a skill... (except in the case of Diplomacy)

but lets say its without the item... 18 ranks, +7 cause of charisma, = 25..
and it requires a check of 25 to make them friendly,

Again with the dragon... ok, this time he won't talk to his dragon friends, give you special items to aid your journey, instead he just invites you on milk and cookies... (wtf?)

Quick note: People immune to mind-effecting 'things' are also immune to be turned by a Diplomacy this way..

 

[Thanee]

according to the epic handbook (3.0) its epic if it reaches a bonus of 31 or more.

Yep, but that limit makes no sense in 3.5 anymore, since skill bonuses are much more valuable now.

As I said, these rules are based on 3.0 only.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Goolpsy]

Rich Burlew (the Giant in the Playground and creator of Order of the Stick) has an excellent alternate handling of Diplomacy. I highly recommend it:

http://www.giantitp.com/Func0010.html

close, and he got the touch.. but not exactly what i was looking for.

Anyone seen the starwars books? The way they handle Force powers as skills... Maybe you could do the same here kindof.. i dont know.. or make a will save? or check - will save = look at table...

more idea's?