Disappointed with Minis

Ranger REG said:
How is it that Wizkids managed to achieve success with their "clicky" collectible minis, but WotC can't with theirs?

WotC is a giant compared to WizKids, so maybe "success" is relative, i.e. what would be considered a big success for WizKids is just chicken feed to WotC.
 

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Ranger REG said:
Hmm. I'm curious...

How is it that Wizkids managed to achieve success with their "clicky" collectible minis, but WotC can't with theirs?

My guess would be that WizKids based a game around the collection of random miniatures, and while WotC tried to do this, most consumers bought their miniatures for a completely seperate game (D&D instead of the Skirmish game).
 


Tsunami said:
My guess would be that WizKids based a game around the collection of random miniatures, and while WotC tried to do this, most consumers bought their miniatures for a completely separate game (D&D instead of the Skirmish game).

What percentage of those consumers who bought the WotC miniatures did so solely for the Skirmish game? A very small percentage, I'm sure. Now, what percentage of those consumers who bought the WotC miniatures did so solely for use in D&D 3.0/3.5? A very large percentage, I'm sure!

And I'm also sure that WotC knew, beforehand, that this would be the case. The Skirmish game seems to me an afterthought on WotC's part, a marketing gimmick to increase the perceived usage and value of these "collectable" miniatures.
 

Ranger REG said:
Well, I think they want the same kind of success the Wizkids have. Why else would they be in the collectible minis market?

Oh, to make money, for sure. But caveat emptor, and all that. :)
 

I'm torn about this too. I collect the minis. Ive never really been a collctor but have always been a fan of minis-but as a hobby the traditional metal minis can get expensive.

I think the skirmish game is fun but not my main impetus for getting them. I approach them as an impulse buy to collect them. The minis perhaps arent the best but are relatively cheap compared to metal. And its kinda cool to have a somewhat "offical" mini that look like monsters from the MM.

I can totally understand frustration by us rpgers who just want minis for a game at the randomization issue. But to be honest we all know they are randomized packs. That means a long haul of time and money. Not saying its right, but caveat emptor.

Ive read somehwere- maybe gaming report that the minis are very succesful for WOTC/Hasbro. The collectability facet of stuff like this and Heroclix is a big selling point. I doubt that we'll ever see set packs or warbands of all evles, or all orcs etc.. Its much easier Im sure from a production standpoint to just produce different lines and randomize them.

But as a reason to quit 3.5? Eh.
 
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I think randomized packs of minis is an easy way for WotC to get out of having to predict which minis will be popular and which won't. They just have to dump them all together and then buyers have to go to a secondary market to get what they really want.

Originally, I was somewhat interested in the new minis. But after I started reading reviews from people who got piles of useless halflings but never the minis they really wanted, I changed my mind. Now I think it's a waste of money for (IMO) poorly painted minis, some of which look downright awful.

I'd rather spend my money on individual blister packs of metal minis that are far superior in quality and I know what I'm getting beforehand. I find that unpainted minis are just as good as painted ones b/c people can imagine an unpainted mini in any number of roles whereas a black-robed wizard is going to usually be construed as a bad guy. Painted looks cooler, but unpainted is more versatile.

Thumbs down to WotC minis...
 

Requirement for miniatures in 3.5 was the main reason I quit playing D&D. Just looking at the pictures of miniatures in the 3.5 books makes me want to vomit. I hate miniatures and everything they stand for.

2nd edition AD&D is the best.
 

Jody Butt said:
Requirement for miniatures in 3.5 was the main reason I quit playing D&D. Just looking at the pictures of miniatures in the 3.5 books makes me want to vomit. I hate miniatures and everything they stand for.

2nd edition AD&D is the best.
...and yet again, its back. Minis are in NO WAY required for 3.5. The rules SUGGEST you have them, but I've played without them without any problem since 3.0's release. Its not THAT hard.
 

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