Discern Location vs Mind Blank

[Targos]

Discern Location - "Nothing short of the direct intervention of a diety keeps you from learning the exact location of a single individual or object. Discern Location circumvents normal means of protection from scrying or location. "

Mind Blank - "This spell protects against all mind-affecting spells and effects as well as information gathering by divination spells or effects. Mind blank even foils limited wish, miracle, and wish when they are used in such a way to affect the subjects mind or to gain information about him."

Can discern location find a mind blanked person? Mind Blank is certainly short of divine intervention, but if Mind blank stops wish, it must stops discern location.

????

 

[IceBear]

It's in the FAQ. The Sage ruled Mind Blank would stop discern location.

IceBear

 

[kreynolds]

<-- waves his "what IceBear said" flag in the air -->

Here's the FAQ entry, for anyone that's interested...

&nbsp&nbspCan someone using a discern location spell find someone
using mind blank spell?
&nbsp&nbspNo. While the discern location spell description contains
some pretty strong language about the spell's ability to
overcome effects that block scrying of divinations, the general
rule in the D&D game favors defense over offense, so mind
blank's ability to block scrying and all forms of divination
trumps discern location&#146;s ability to penetrate such defenses.
Blocking spells of 7th level or less, however, are still
ineffective against discern location.

 

[FlimFlam]

Would a Retriever (demon in the MM) be able to use it's locating ability to find someone that was wearing an Amulet of Proof Against Detection & Locaiton? Would the Retriever need to roll (as per the Amulet states) or does it's ability to locate surpass the amulet's ability to hide itself (and the wearer)?

 

[kreynolds]

Would a Retriever (demon in the MM) be able to use it's locating ability to find someone that was wearing an Amulet of Proof Against Detection & Locaiton?

Yup.

Would the Retriever need to roll (as per the Amulet states) or does it's ability to locate surpass the amulet's ability to hide itself (and the wearer)?

It's ability is based off of Discern Location, which "circumvents normal means of protection from scrying or location". I'd have to say that nondection would be circumvented (it also only a 3rd/4th level spell). In other words, if it's not Mind Blank that it's coming up against, you don't have to roll.