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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7268159" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Buh? What history has changed? What morality? The only tech change is adding a cloaking device to a single ship, and it's never actually been stated in canon where and when the Klingons got it. There were explanations that they stole it from the Romulans, but, that was all fan explanations and never actually stated in canon. Metaphysics? I'm not even sure what that means here in context.</p><p></p><p>Look, in TOS, the Klingons were a stand in for Communists. Like all good SF, they are a commentary on the real world. Now, since this is 2017 and we deep in a cold war with the communists anymore, it's not really surprising that there have been some changes.</p><p></p><p>But, let's not forget. The Klingons were SCARY. In TOS, when you saw Klingons, it was very much an OH <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> moment. But, in TOS, it was never really explained why. Why are the Klingons considered such bad guys? We did though, see all sorts of oblique references. In Errand of Mercy, any disobedience to Klingons was an instant death sentence. When the Organians resist, Kor orders the execution of 200 random citizens. Not exactly warm and fuzzy. Klingons were always described as being downright nasty, we just never actually directly saw it very much. </p><p></p><p>Now? Now we're getting up close and personal about why the Federation and it's allies distrusts and outright hates the Klingons so much. It's not so much of a change in canon, but, rather, a change in how much we're directly getting to see.</p><p></p><p>The whole "noble warrior" thing that TNG and subsequent series added was a change to how Klingons were originally portrayed. One would hope that it was contact with the Federation that causes the societal change.</p><p></p><p>Appearance? Ok, yup. I'll certainly grant you that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7268159, member: 22779"] Buh? What history has changed? What morality? The only tech change is adding a cloaking device to a single ship, and it's never actually been stated in canon where and when the Klingons got it. There were explanations that they stole it from the Romulans, but, that was all fan explanations and never actually stated in canon. Metaphysics? I'm not even sure what that means here in context. Look, in TOS, the Klingons were a stand in for Communists. Like all good SF, they are a commentary on the real world. Now, since this is 2017 and we deep in a cold war with the communists anymore, it's not really surprising that there have been some changes. But, let's not forget. The Klingons were SCARY. In TOS, when you saw Klingons, it was very much an OH :):):):) moment. But, in TOS, it was never really explained why. Why are the Klingons considered such bad guys? We did though, see all sorts of oblique references. In Errand of Mercy, any disobedience to Klingons was an instant death sentence. When the Organians resist, Kor orders the execution of 200 random citizens. Not exactly warm and fuzzy. Klingons were always described as being downright nasty, we just never actually directly saw it very much. Now? Now we're getting up close and personal about why the Federation and it's allies distrusts and outright hates the Klingons so much. It's not so much of a change in canon, but, rather, a change in how much we're directly getting to see. The whole "noble warrior" thing that TNG and subsequent series added was a change to how Klingons were originally portrayed. One would hope that it was contact with the Federation that causes the societal change. Appearance? Ok, yup. I'll certainly grant you that. [/QUOTE]
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