Discussion for a Kingdom of ashes

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

Breakfast Club

I know this was asked, but I am not sure how/if it was answered-- In order for the above plan or even planning to take place (for day 26), when was/is the adventure into Oceanis happening-- before this, after this?????

Also, how is the Breakfast Club stuff going? Who has it?

Thanks-

Reply #1!! (this could take a while... busy boards today)

I really think that the Breakfast Club thing needs a different format. The single person email leaves people out and can get backed up if just one person gets busy for a couple of days...
I think it should go out to everybody and people can make their changes in different colors or something...
I've got lots to add... and I understand being busy- but, I could have added all my stuff over the weekend but never got the opportunity because I still haven't gotten it...

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

I think it's a bit early to be declaring anyone queen or otherwise publicizing our opposition to the crown. Once we have a decent, functioning army of reasonably loyalty, backed up with a serious military victory (say the liberation of Oceanus...oooh, I like that...liberation...ahem), then we can think about overt political statements. For now I think our situation is too unstable.

Just my $0.02 (adjusted for inflation)


Jeremiah

I think it is already more than clear that we are rebels. Our stance needs to be well publicized or we are not going to be able to pull in the peoples we NEED to form our Army...
For example, the Bluemages need to know that we are not going to backstab them and turn them into the king because, we are working in opposition to the king.

Declaring the Jaine is the rightful queen, though risky, gives us a certian leverage that is not otherwise provided.

I don't know if y'all have read the Wheel of Time books but, there is a point when one of the major insitutions, the White Tower, splits... in order to gain legitimacy, the alienated "rebels" (really, the good guys) elected their own leader-- we're doing the same thing. Rallying people requires it be public knowledge that we are opposed to the king-- and one of those reasons happens to be that we know that the king was not the rightful heir to the throne.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

I vote Xath to go talk to him, with justice holding Arhconus back --just in case

I agree!! Xath has the ability to wrap that boy around her finger and then, we have his troops at our disposal... um... disposal... that's a bad word...

We can utilize those troops to liberate the city of Oceanus! YES LIBERATE!

And, I think that's easier than trying to lie our way around our rebellion.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

Yep... king has been sneaky so it will be hard to get evidence until his plan -whatever it is- is complete. I only have assumtions they seem to be based on other assumtions, so I am no help with this one.

There are lots of things that I Justice knows-- however, I've been waiting for the breakfast club email.

I'll just write them all down tomorrow and email them out.

However, our army depends on the open rebellion to the thrown. Without it, we loose the bluemages. We NEED the bluemages.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

The King's Evil-ness

Okay... Several things I'm going to list now... I'm sure there's more that Justice knows... but, I'm not going to sort though all the documents right now..

(1) We KNOW that the King's advisors are evil.
(2) We KNOW that the King is working with the dragon army on a bunch of different levels...
(3) We KNOW that, somehow, the King is the dominant player in his relationship with the dragon people.
(4) We KNOW that the King is using the Bluestars symbol to cover up for bad stuff.
(5) We KNOW that the King and the Bluestar are not working together at all.
(6) We KNOW that the King is looking for all of the Spiritblades... however, we don't know what they will do... probably unlock an ancient power and allow him to dominate the entire world and enslave all living beings... unless, of course, the spiritblades unlock a secret recipe for to-die-for Blueberry Muffins... and, I just don't seem to think that's the case.


And how do we convince people of all of these interesting factoids?? A little treat I like to call diplomacy.

We do not have *HARD* proof... but, really, who did in times like this. I don't have a camera phone to take pictures of the evil ships, the ability to dust for prints, or DNA evidence. However, we do have 2 members of the group--both Xath and Justice-- that are almost overwhelmingly convincing.

So, I believe that putting forth our open rebellion to the throne, at this point, will cause us no harm because, the people of Hyrwl are not going to revolt and the King has some very important Blueberry Muffins to attend.

 

[AIM-54]

Okay... Several things I'm going to list now... I'm sure there's more that Justice knows... but, I'm not going to sort though all the documents right now..

(1) We KNOW that the King's advisors are evil.
(2) We KNOW that the King is working with the dragon army on a bunch of different levels...
(3) We KNOW that, somehow, the King is the dominant player in his relationship with the dragon people.
(4) We KNOW that the King is using the Bluestars symbol to cover up for bad stuff.
(5) We KNOW that the King and the Bluestar are not working together at all.
(6) We KNOW that the King is looking for all of the Spiritblades... however, we don't know what they will do... probably unlock an ancient power and allow him to dominate the entire world and enslave all living beings... unless, of course, the spiritblades unlock a secret recipe for to-die-for Blueberry Muffins... and, I just don't seem to think that's the case.


And how do we convince people of all of these interesting factoids?? A little treat I like to call diplomacy.

We do not have *HARD* proof... but, really, who did in times like this. I don't have a camera phone to take pictures of the evil ships, the ability to dust for prints, or DNA evidence. However, we do have 2 members of the group--both Xath and Justice-- that are almost overwhelmingly convincing.

So, I believe that putting forth our open rebellion to the throne, at this point, will cause us no harm because, the people of Hyrwl are not going to revolt and the King has some very important Blueberry Muffins to attend.

I think Herr Seaborn's comments earlier in this thread/today give us the best opportunity to produce convincing arguments and evidence that the king is not what he seems. Certainly better than trusting than entrusting the fate of the rebellion to charisma and a dice roll. After all, we might just be power-hungry despots eager to institute our own evil empire and are currently just pretending to hold these peoples interests in our hearts. Wouldn't be the first time such a thing had occurred.

 

[The_Universe]

I think Herr Seaborn's comments earlier in this thread/today give us the best opportunity to produce convincing arguments and evidence that the king is not what he seems. Certainly better than trusting than entrusting the fate of the rebellion to charisma and a dice roll. After all, we might just be power-hungry despots eager to institute our own evil empire and are currently just pretending to hold these peoples interests in our hearts. Wouldn't be the first time such a thing had occurred.

But to be fair, there is a reason that such despotry seems to occur--because people, as a whole, are fairly gullible. There's certainly nothing EXALTED about using that common mortal failing to benefit your cause, but it is expedient, and is consistently effective. I see no reason why you couldn't do the same thing the bad guys are doing, but for a good cause....

As OJ Simpson can tell you, evidence is never as good as popular sentiment.

I just want to point out, and stress, that Captain Seaborne's comments were just an idea...but if you need proof, I don't know where else you're going to find it. I just thought of the cannon thing this afternoon, and unlike you all, I have ALL of the facts.

 

[Xath]

Quickly, Quickly!

My quick message in my quest to avoid studying for tomorrow's biology exam.

1. The military stuff looks really cool. I have no idea what it means. But it looks cool. So keep it up.

2. Breakfast Club is still with me. Sorry about that but I have been in class for 12 hours straight today(whine, gripe, yada yada yada)

3. Kennon, your initials, though similar to my own, will never be as cool.

4. Dealing with Mr. McHalf-Orc. I vote for Jaine to deal with him. She's alot hotter than Xath, and if she's successful, then we'll have an ally, not only for us, but for the new Queen too.

5. I forget...

6. Tryglycerides:compounds formed from glycerol and fatty acids. Fatty acids are the simplest type of lipid. and are used to also make up phosolipids.

7. And with that, I had better continue studying or get some sleep.

Gertie - owner of the initials KGB...

 

[AIM-54]

Gertie - owner of the initials KGB...

Heh heh heh heh heh.

Yes, I am a Europe-Russia nerd. Leave me alone.

Now if only I knew someone with the intials FSB...

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

I think Herr Seaborn's comments earlier in this thread/today give us the best opportunity to produce convincing arguments and evidence that the king is not what he seems. Certainly better than trusting than entrusting the fate of the rebellion to charisma and a dice roll. After all, we might just be power-hungry despots eager to institute our own evil empire and are currently just pretending to hold these peoples interests in our hearts. Wouldn't be the first time such a thing had occurred.

I'm certainly not trying to say that diplomacy is the only way... However, I do believe that popular sentiment, as Kennon said, is a very powerful weapon. It's the whole reason that Justice has the Leadership Feat and puts ridiculous amounts of her skill points into diplomacy.
It cannot solve all the problems but, it is a very good start.

The cannon is an excellent idea... now, we just have to find a way to, ya know, sneak onto the dragon people's boats and steal one without being caught..

This sounds like a job for Archonus!!! *grin*

So, anyone know how much one of those babies weighs??