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Breakfast Club

Laurel said:
I know this was asked, but I am not sure how/if it was answered-- In order for the above plan or even planning to take place (for day 26), when was/is the adventure into Oceanis happening-- before this, after this?????

Also, how is the Breakfast Club stuff going? Who has it?

Thanks-

Reply #1!! (this could take a while... busy boards today)

I really think that the Breakfast Club thing needs a different format. The single person email leaves people out and can get backed up if just one person gets busy for a couple of days...
I think it should go out to everybody and people can make their changes in different colors or something...
I've got lots to add... and I understand being busy- but, I could have added all my stuff over the weekend but never got the opportunity because I still haven't gotten it...
 

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AIM-54 said:
I think it's a bit early to be declaring anyone queen or otherwise publicizing our opposition to the crown. Once we have a decent, functioning army of reasonably loyalty, backed up with a serious military victory (say the liberation of Oceanus...oooh, I like that...liberation...ahem), then we can think about overt political statements. For now I think our situation is too unstable.

Just my $0.02 (adjusted for inflation)


Jeremiah

I think it is already more than clear that we are rebels. Our stance needs to be well publicized or we are not going to be able to pull in the peoples we NEED to form our Army...
For example, the Bluemages need to know that we are not going to backstab them and turn them into the king because, we are working in opposition to the king.

Declaring the Jaine is the rightful queen, though risky, gives us a certian leverage that is not otherwise provided.

I don't know if y'all have read the Wheel of Time books but, there is a point when one of the major insitutions, the White Tower, splits... in order to gain legitimacy, the alienated "rebels" (really, the good guys) elected their own leader-- we're doing the same thing. Rallying people requires it be public knowledge that we are opposed to the king-- and one of those reasons happens to be that we know that the king was not the rightful heir to the throne.
 

Laurel said:
I vote Xath to go talk to him, with justice holding Arhconus back --just in case :-)


I agree!! Xath has the ability to wrap that boy around her finger and then, we have his troops at our disposal... um... disposal... that's a bad word...

We can utilize those troops to liberate the city of Oceanus! YES LIBERATE!

And, I think that's easier than trying to lie our way around our rebellion.
 

Laurel said:
Yep... king has been sneaky so it will be hard to get evidence until his plan -whatever it is- is complete. I only have assumtions they seem to be based on other assumtions, so I am no help with this one.


There are lots of things that I Justice knows-- however, I've been waiting for the breakfast club email.

I'll just write them all down tomorrow and email them out.

However, our army depends on the open rebellion to the thrown. Without it, we loose the bluemages. We NEED the bluemages.
 

The King's Evil-ness

Okay... Several things I'm going to list now... I'm sure there's more that Justice knows... but, I'm not going to sort though all the documents right now..

(1) We KNOW that the King's advisors are evil.
(2) We KNOW that the King is working with the dragon army on a bunch of different levels...
(3) We KNOW that, somehow, the King is the dominant player in his relationship with the dragon people.
(4) We KNOW that the King is using the Bluestars symbol to cover up for bad stuff.
(5) We KNOW that the King and the Bluestar are not working together at all.
(6) We KNOW that the King is looking for all of the Spiritblades... however, we don't know what they will do... probably unlock an ancient power and allow him to dominate the entire world and enslave all living beings... unless, of course, the spiritblades unlock a secret recipe for to-die-for Blueberry Muffins... and, I just don't seem to think that's the case.


And how do we convince people of all of these interesting factoids?? A little treat I like to call diplomacy.

We do not have *HARD* proof... but, really, who did in times like this. I don't have a camera phone to take pictures of the evil ships, the ability to dust for prints, or DNA evidence. However, we do have 2 members of the group--both Xath and Justice-- that are almost overwhelmingly convincing.

So, I believe that putting forth our open rebellion to the throne, at this point, will cause us no harm because, the people of Hyrwl are not going to revolt and the King has some very important Blueberry Muffins to attend.
 

Queen_Dopplepopolis said:
Okay... Several things I'm going to list now... I'm sure there's more that Justice knows... but, I'm not going to sort though all the documents right now..

(1) We KNOW that the King's advisors are evil.
(2) We KNOW that the King is working with the dragon army on a bunch of different levels...
(3) We KNOW that, somehow, the King is the dominant player in his relationship with the dragon people.
(4) We KNOW that the King is using the Bluestars symbol to cover up for bad stuff.
(5) We KNOW that the King and the Bluestar are not working together at all.
(6) We KNOW that the King is looking for all of the Spiritblades... however, we don't know what they will do... probably unlock an ancient power and allow him to dominate the entire world and enslave all living beings... unless, of course, the spiritblades unlock a secret recipe for to-die-for Blueberry Muffins... and, I just don't seem to think that's the case.


And how do we convince people of all of these interesting factoids?? A little treat I like to call diplomacy.

We do not have *HARD* proof... but, really, who did in times like this. I don't have a camera phone to take pictures of the evil ships, the ability to dust for prints, or DNA evidence. However, we do have 2 members of the group--both Xath and Justice-- that are almost overwhelmingly convincing.

So, I believe that putting forth our open rebellion to the throne, at this point, will cause us no harm because, the people of Hyrwl are not going to revolt and the King has some very important Blueberry Muffins to attend.

I think Herr Seaborn's comments earlier in this thread/today give us the best opportunity to produce convincing arguments and evidence that the king is not what he seems. Certainly better than trusting than entrusting the fate of the rebellion to charisma and a dice roll. After all, we might just be power-hungry despots eager to institute our own evil empire and are currently just pretending to hold these peoples interests in our hearts. Wouldn't be the first time such a thing had occurred.




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Thread locked on 6/29/04 by Brother Shatterstone
 
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