Discussion of Scotley's Pathfinder game (closed)

[Leif]

He [Faustus] was more of a homicidal sociopath than feral.

I couldn't have said it better myself, Scotley!

 

[Scotley]

I couldn't have said it better myself, Scotley!

I have to put all that expensive education I got in Psychology to use once in a while.

 

[Scotley]

As a reminder each of you received one hero point for your characters’ lives prior to the start of the game and a second hero point is now award to each for have them posted with an appropriate background in the RG.

Per my earlier post (thanks for the reminder mleibrock) I also want to give the players a say in the awarding of hero points. If you note one of you fellows engaging in a particularly selfless and heroic act you might choose to award them a hero point. We'll also have a 'most valuable player' vote at some logical point in the story as well as a 'most engaging roleplayer'. Feel free to suggest other worthy awards to give everyone a chance--maybe the D&D equivalent of Ms. Congeniality. Maybe even most amusing comments in the OOC thread related to the game. Whatever tickles your fancy. I'll give you points as you level up and perhaps at other times, but I'd like you all to take the lead on this. Obviously, giving out more than one extra point to each of your fellows per level would be frowned upon by your DM.

Now that all the characters are posted and introduced we can have our first vote. Review the other characters and PM or Email me your vote for the one you find most interesting, creative or well written. No particular criteria here, just whichever one you like. A couple of caveats--no campaigning or attempting to buy votes , keep your vote secret, vote only once and most importantly, you can't vote for yourself. Should there be a tie, I will cast the deciding vote. Sound like fun? I figure it will give you all a chance to know each other’s' characters and maybe spot some mechanical errors I've missed.

Our candidates in the order they were posted to the RG are:

Besharrn Blacktusk (Human name 'Jonathan Agrivar'), Ranger3, Half-Orc played by Leif
Vadim Nazdravan, Half-Elf Archeologist (Bard) 3 played by Mowgli
B'rri Half-elf Magus 3 played by Lou
Falco Halfling Oracle 3 played by mliebrock
Brendan Alaric Ifrit Sorcerer 3 played by J. Alexander
Dannis Veraggo Human Cleric of Sarenrae

The Rogue's Gallery for this game can be found here:
Scotley's Carrion Crown RG - EN World: Your Daily RPG Magazine

Still waiting for votes from Mowgli and Lou.

 

[mleibrock]

retraining traits

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotley View Post
OOC: Yes, you cast the spell at 4th level, so +4 or a total of 6th. Once you reach 5th level you'll get no benefit from the feat, so you may wish to retrain it for something else.
Scott,

Is the retraining thing a house rule for your game? I couldn't find any info about retraining and when I googled it, here is what I found:

paizo.com - Messageboards / Pathfinder Society / General Discussion / Retraining/Adjusting Characters?

 

[Scotley]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotley View Post
OOC: Yes, you cast the spell at 4th level, so +4 or a total of 6th. Once you reach 5th level you'll get no benefit from the feat, so you may wish to retrain it for something else.
Scott,

Is the retraining thing a house rule for your game? I couldn't find any info about retraining and when I googled it, here is what I found:

paizo.com - Messageboards / Pathfinder Society / General Discussion / Retraining/Adjusting Characters?

Retraining is more of 3.5 concept I guess. I don't know if there is a mechanic for it in Pathfinder, but either way, I won't make you waste a feat on something that gives you no benefit. We'll adjust as needed.

 

[Rhun]

Retraining is more of 3.5 concept I guess. I don't know if there is a mechanic for it in Pathfinder, but either way, I won't make you waste a feat on something that gives you no benefit. We'll adjust as needed.

The game rules are so close that it is pretty easy to move concepts and such back and forth though. I think using the retraining rule would be a simple thing in Pathfinder.

 

[mleibrock]

retraining

Not to change your mind or anything. But I want everyone to be on the same page. It's a trait, not a feat and a trait is worth about 1/2 as much as a feat. But, I'd love to be able to re-train, even if it's only for half value or some such.

 

[Lou]

Not to change your mind or anything. But I want everyone to be on the same page. It's a trait, not a feat and a trait is worth about 1/2 as much as a feat. But, I'd love to be able to re-train, even if it's only for half value or some such.

My 2 cents on this.

Pathfinder seems to be more restrictive on retraining than 3.5. Some classes have retraining, like Fighter bonus feats, and others don't. This game is designed for balance. Seems like the designers thought retraining unbalanced things. I'm not sure I see it, but ok. Perhaps it has to do with the larger number of feats each PC gets as they level up.

Seems to me that retraining with the usual limits makes sense. I also don't see why a trait couldn't be changed as well. Perhaps retraining is a longer term thing, where you have to give up the trait for one level to gain a new trait. Perhaps you have to give up a feat for one level to gain a different feat.

Whatever Scotley wants to do is fine. It's just not a big unbalancer as I see it.

 

[Leif]

Since there are others chiming in, I might as well do so, too:

I see it not as a game balance thing, or a re-training rule thing, but rather as a HAVING FUN WITH THE GAME thing. Let Mikey make the character he wants to make. Now, granted, he should make a character that's on par with the other characters, but if something's not working out like he hoped it would, then I say let him change it and make the character he wants. I would also say the same thing for anyone else who becomes dissatisfied with a character, but I recognize that there has to be some limit on this to preserve some sort of continuity in the game.

 

[Scotley]

I would certainly hesitate to let you simply swap one trait out for another without some cost, but changing the spell it affects is really no big deal to me. I agree it is all about having a good time. Anyway, you have to survive to earn a couple of levels before it even becomes an issue.