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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nonlethal Force" data-source="post: 3732821" data-attributes="member: 35788">What you suggest isn't scaling down, it's changing the adventure completely.  It's like someone saying that in order to scale the cleric down everyone who wants to play a cleric should really change their idea completely and play a fighter instead.  It really makes no sense.[To use 3.x lingo in a 4e thread...] The conversation wasn't about how easy is it to make a CR 5 encounter for a party level 7 characters who are equipment/wealth/magic deprived enough to make them actually closer to an ECL 5.  Any fool can make a CR 5 encounter a number of different ways.What the conversation was actually about is how easy it is to scale the power level down for a character.  There are many approaches to raising/lowering the power level for npcs based on class levels and all of them are rather easy: money changes, speed of acquisition of feats, point buy, etc.  But when it comes to a monster, many of them are difficult to scale back.  Sure, any idiot can simply replace the creature with a completely different and weaker one.  But it takes time to be able to use the monster you want while trimming it's power level back.  It isn't hard in all cases, but it is hard in many cases.</blockquote>