Disdain for new fantasy

[AllisterH]

Can anyone explain why if anything is derived from anime/WoW (even if it has a non-existent connection) it seems like there is opposition not based on the concept itself but from where it comes from?

 

[Seeten]

Old style grognards.

I am growing to like anime influences more and more. ToB: Bo9S was the best thing to ever happen to 3e imo. The more anime influence 4e has, the happier I will be, assuming it still is identifiable as D&D.

Oh, and I started in 1977 with AD&D, and I'm 36.

 

[Shortman McLeod]

Can anyone explain why if anything is derived from anime/WoW (even if it has a non-existent connection) it seems like there is opposition not based on the concept itself but from where it comes from?

WoW: In many gamers' minds, WoW represents the epitome of what D&D must not become: a mindless hack n' slash computer game.

anime: Have you seen the kind of people that are huge into anime? Scary . . .

 

[EyeontheMountain]

WOW: I agree with the above poster, D&D should be primarily role-playing, but with lots of adventure, not an endless series of killings, and gathering stuff.

Anime: I just have never liked Anime. The stories, the character attitudes, the way they use magic in thier worlds. It is just no D&D to me. Should be a seperate game.

 

[blargney the second]

Prejudice is neither pretty nor rational.
-blarg

 

[Doug McCrae]

I don't see much difference. D&D was originally inspired by pop culture trash - fantasy pulps, space opera, Hammer horror, David Carradine's Kung Fu, 70s Marvel comics, and even bizarre kids' toys. Now it's still being inspired by pop culture trash.

Okay, some D&D is derived from ancient myth and folklore but it's not a deep reading thereof. It's myth as cheap thrill, being mined solely for weird-shaped monsters for the PCs to murder.

 

[Nonlethal Force]

Personal preference style: And not, this doesn't make it wrong, just a preference.

For example: I hate the anime that have characters weilding swords with the itty bitty thin handles and the bigger-than-life-taller-than-the-character blades. I just don't like it. It bends realism in a way that I don't appreciate it being bent. Bad for me, but not wrong.

For another example: I also don't want Matrix or Crouch Tiger Hidden Dragon stlye cinematics (which are also typical of some anime) as a part of my game. I love them as a part of the movies, and the Matrix trilogy is one of my favorites. But I don't want them in my game. Again, bad for me, but not wrong.

None of this makes me a grognard. It does make me have a personal style for enjoyment.

 

[Mouseferatu]

What Nonlethal Force said. Much anime and "modern" fantasy contains aesthetics and ideas that I don't care for.

That said, I don't have the knee-jerk reaction some people do. That is, if I see something I don't like, I don't like it no matter where it's from. If I see something I like, I don't care if it comes from anime, WoW, or some other source.

It's just that, more often than not, there's more overlap in my personal taste with the older fantasy tropes than the newer ones.

 

[Doug McCrae]

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[blargney the second]

I just re-read the thread and realized that what I said sounds more inflammatory than I intended. There's a world of difference between knee-jerk prejudice and considered personal preference.
-blarg