Disdain for new fantasy

[Shadeydm]

I loved Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, wonderful movie, but I don't need it in my DnD any more than I need the Transformers movie in it.

 

[DonTadow]

anime has
Intriguing stories
Fantasy Action
Compelling Heroes

D and D should have
Intriguing stories
Fantasy Action
Comeplling stories

Anime also embraces a lot of differnet styles. To say i hate d andd becomes its becoming anime is like saying i hate ps3 because they make action games. Well if you dont like one style of action you don't have to play that style. There are plenty of traditional fantasy anime "slayers, Lodoss wars"

 

[Shadeydm]

There are plenty of traditional fantasy anime "slayers, Lodoss wars"

I saw this it and enjoyed it for the most part. Those elf ears needed some trimming imo.

 

[Umbran]

Can anyone explain why if anything is derived from anime/WoW (even if it has a non-existent connection) it seems like there is opposition not based on the concept itself but from where it comes from?

Um, honestly? Because all too often with such derivative work, where it is derived from is a majority of the concept. When a genre has a strong following, the genre itself is a selling point.

When I'm a fan of the genre, this is less of a problem, but when I'm not a fan it becomes a barrier.

 

[w_earle_wheeler]

Think of an "updated" version of Monopoly that changed all the properties, utilities and tokens.

Some people will like the new, different version -- case in point, all the College-opoly versions.

But some people enjoy the history and experience of playing Monopoly with the classically defined elements. I would daresay that most people enjoy this, as the (almost) original version of Monopoly is still sold and bought more often than any of the "updated" official or clone versions.

D&D has always been inclusive of new ideas in fantasy (even when those "new" ideas come from people inspired by older editions of D&D!), but I think we are now reaching a breaking point between personal preferences.

Starting with 3.0, the grumbling began about the anime and video game influences on the game. With 4.0, it seems that even more of those elements will become core for the game.



Personally, I don't mind new fantasy. However, I think new fantasy needs its own RPG. I prefer my D&D with classic tone and fluff.

 

[Goblyn]

I loved Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, wonderful movie, but I don't need it in my DnD any more than I need the Transformers movie in it.

I find it an interesting exercise to see if these things CAN be modeled in Dnd; but I prefer to use pre-establisehed rules, as close to core as I can get. But I guess that's neither here nor there.

 

[Fifth Element]

But I don't want them in my game. Again, bad for me, but not wrong.

None of this makes me a grognard. It does make me have a personal style for enjoyment.

True. A grognard is one who considers his personal preference for the older style to be inherently superior.

On ENWorld I find that responses to reasoned, sensible posts are generally quite reasoned and sensible themselves. There are some crackpots, but they're pretty rare here compared to other boards.

 

[howandwhy99]

If D&D is going to maintain it's everything-and-the-kitchen-sink mentality, it's going to need to include anime.
Like cthulhu,
and aliens,
and robots,
and...

 

[Seeten]

We have Aliens, we have cthulhu, we have robots in our current D&D.

So, I guess, check?

 

[Varianor Abroad]

Think of an "updated" version of Monopoly that changed all the properties, utilities and tokens.

Or like Lord of the Rings Monopoly.

Good points all around. I like the anime style of action in games. More and more. Not the art so much.