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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TwinBahamut" data-source="post: 3733149" data-attributes="member: 32536">I think you are pretty much right, Arkhandus.Literary figures like Aragorn are not the best standard to compare D&D fighters to.I mean, you are quite right about D&D Wizards making wizards like Merlin look fairly weak in comaprison, but at the same time, people forget how powerful the fighters of Arthurian myth were. While Merlin sat back and did fairly little, acting wise and not using much magic, Arthur was going off and killing dragons and giants right and left. According to The Death of King Arthur, he was still a great warrior in his prime, casually fending off an attack by the Roman Empire as if it were unimportant, when he was in his 90's.In other myths, Cuchulainn from the Celtic Ulster cycle once took down hundreds of warriors in a single day, by throwing pebbles at them from miles away.Or there is Indian mythology, in which two warriors fight by sending millions of arrows at each other from their flying chariots. In the words of my twin brother (who seriously studies this stuff): "You have not seen an epic-level jump check until you have seen a guy jump from Sri Lanka to a mystic mountain in Northern India, and then leap back, carrying the mountain with him."Conan barely qualifies as 4th level compared to these guys.</blockquote>