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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Merlion" data-source="post: 3765044" data-attributes="member: 10397">This is a seperate issue. You have, of course, the right to say whatever you please. But actions and words have consquencesFirst, people are allowed to disagree with you, and to express that disagreement.Second, theres the issue of courtesy. People can have different opinions, but respect that the other person's opinion is valid. Thats where the big problem lies. If you think its crap, then its crap for you, but don't tell me that that means its crap for me as well in some ultimate objective sense. Thats for me to decide, not you. Telling people that their opinions about a subjective subject are crap, meaningless, ill informed etc is rude, and people will respond as such.Then theres the enjoyment-quality distinction thing. You see enjoyability as seperate from "artistic quality" or whatever. For you, anything is "crap" that doesnt live up to certain artistic criteria, or criteria of depth and relevence, but it can still be fun to watch or read.   Many don't see the two as mutually exclusive, in either direction. At the most basic level, if something is enjoyable, than it is good if only on the basic entertainment level.  I do feel that a work can be great on some levels and less good on others...or perhaps it simply doesnt address those levels at all, which is also valid. Much art is made with enjoyment as its primary purpose, and if it succeeds in that, then it is good. Some is made both for that purpose and to convey some message...but even then, the message mail fail for some, succeed for others.  In the end, just about any criteria you use to try and measure creative works are in themselves going to be subjective.</blockquote>

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