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<blockquote data-quote="Merlion" data-source="post: 3765937" data-attributes="member: 10397"><p>From myself. But I don't claim that they necessarily apply to anyone but me.</p><p></p><p>For instance, I tend to be bored by most "regular" drama, comedy and even action stories that lack supernatural/unusual elements. But I dont consider most of the things that bore me "bad", I just consider them boring, for myself.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p> But whats the intention or purpose behind it? Is it meant to be a sincere creative expression?</p><p></p><p> But then, how can one really tell?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p> Its more that for some of these things, there are no single, definitive, absolute and universal answers, at least not in terms of debate-logic.</p><p></p><p> I believe that all artistic/creative works have inherent value.</p><p></p><p>I believe that there are certain areas in which most people tend to agree that certain things are more or less enjoyable or useful, especially as far as storytelling. These are semi-objective elements, like plot, characterization etc. But even they are in the end subjective, and a story can have many flaws in these areas but still retain a great deal of value. </p><p></p><p> I think some works are made simply to be entertainment, without a lot of other purpose or intention behind them. Many of the works that people label "bad" fall into this catagory. They have no delusions of being masterpieces or of changing the world, they exist simply to give enjoyment and entertainment. But this is a value in itself. </p><p></p><p> I think rarely there are works that are created mainly just to be sold and that these could perhaps be considered the "least valuable" of artistic works. However, if they are enjoyed, then they still posses value and merit. </p><p></p><p> I think that works into which great love and thought are poured are on, for lack of a better term, a "higher level" than those that are produced mainly as a commercial commodity. But then, how does one tell them apart?</p><p></p><p> Like I said, there arent absolute answers and reconciliations for some of these things. A lot of it depends on the individual work. But the notion that some artistic works are simply bad in some universal objective way, to me basically boils down to either elitism or egotism in the end.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Merlion, post: 3765937, member: 10397"] From myself. But I don't claim that they necessarily apply to anyone but me. For instance, I tend to be bored by most "regular" drama, comedy and even action stories that lack supernatural/unusual elements. But I dont consider most of the things that bore me "bad", I just consider them boring, for myself. But whats the intention or purpose behind it? Is it meant to be a sincere creative expression? But then, how can one really tell? Its more that for some of these things, there are no single, definitive, absolute and universal answers, at least not in terms of debate-logic. I believe that all artistic/creative works have inherent value. I believe that there are certain areas in which most people tend to agree that certain things are more or less enjoyable or useful, especially as far as storytelling. These are semi-objective elements, like plot, characterization etc. But even they are in the end subjective, and a story can have many flaws in these areas but still retain a great deal of value. I think some works are made simply to be entertainment, without a lot of other purpose or intention behind them. Many of the works that people label "bad" fall into this catagory. They have no delusions of being masterpieces or of changing the world, they exist simply to give enjoyment and entertainment. But this is a value in itself. I think rarely there are works that are created mainly just to be sold and that these could perhaps be considered the "least valuable" of artistic works. However, if they are enjoyed, then they still posses value and merit. I think that works into which great love and thought are poured are on, for lack of a better term, a "higher level" than those that are produced mainly as a commercial commodity. But then, how does one tell them apart? Like I said, there arent absolute answers and reconciliations for some of these things. A lot of it depends on the individual work. But the notion that some artistic works are simply bad in some universal objective way, to me basically boils down to either elitism or egotism in the end. [/QUOTE]
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