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<blockquote data-quote="Merlion" data-source="post: 3766569" data-attributes="member: 10397"><p>[QUOTEGeron Raveneye]The one Merlion (and I, for most cases) applies is the very subjective question"Does it entertain me?", which will derive its results from the personal feedback upon experiencing the respective peice of art (story, song, poem, picture, etc.)</p></blockquote><p></p><p></p><p>That isnt the only question I ask. However, I believe virtually all works of art have entertainment/enjoyment as one of their often several purposes. And I do feel that quite a few works have it as their main or sole purpose. Many of these get labeled "bad" because they are not, nor do they try to be, exceedingly deep or masterpieces of any given set of criteria for the artform, they exist simply to be entertaining and enjoyable. But for many people, not trying to live up to academic criteria makes them "bad"</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>But often those very criteria are themselves subjective. Even professional critics and other "experts" often disagree about which criteria should be used, which are the more important specific criteria, and how many a work can fail to live up to, in their eyes, and still be "good"</p><p></p><p>Basically the criteria used to "judge" arent are sets of codified, and in some cases relatively widely held, opinions. </p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Some times yes, some times no. Certain highly specific artforms do have extremely stringest criteria, especially some forms of poetry as I understand. A Haiku or Sonnet which breaks the rules of those forms could I suppose be called a "bad" Haiku or Sonnet, but that doesnt necessarily make it a valueless work of art.</p><p></p><p>As far as more generall purposes...there are so many ways of telling a story or painting a picture or whatever, to try and come up with a set of set in stone criteria for all of them is a fool's errand. What about works that fall outside any established style or genre?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>The thing is, most or all attempts to define "objective" criteria for artwork still boil down to someone, or a group of someones, liking it or not.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Merlion, post: 3766569, member: 10397"] [QUOTEGeron Raveneye]The one Merlion (and I, for most cases) applies is the very subjective question"Does it entertain me?", which will derive its results from the personal feedback upon experiencing the respective peice of art (story, song, poem, picture, etc.)[/QUOTE] That isnt the only question I ask. However, I believe virtually all works of art have entertainment/enjoyment as one of their often several purposes. And I do feel that quite a few works have it as their main or sole purpose. Many of these get labeled "bad" because they are not, nor do they try to be, exceedingly deep or masterpieces of any given set of criteria for the artform, they exist simply to be entertaining and enjoyable. But for many people, not trying to live up to academic criteria makes them "bad" But often those very criteria are themselves subjective. Even professional critics and other "experts" often disagree about which criteria should be used, which are the more important specific criteria, and how many a work can fail to live up to, in their eyes, and still be "good" Basically the criteria used to "judge" arent are sets of codified, and in some cases relatively widely held, opinions. Some times yes, some times no. Certain highly specific artforms do have extremely stringest criteria, especially some forms of poetry as I understand. A Haiku or Sonnet which breaks the rules of those forms could I suppose be called a "bad" Haiku or Sonnet, but that doesnt necessarily make it a valueless work of art. As far as more generall purposes...there are so many ways of telling a story or painting a picture or whatever, to try and come up with a set of set in stone criteria for all of them is a fool's errand. What about works that fall outside any established style or genre? The thing is, most or all attempts to define "objective" criteria for artwork still boil down to someone, or a group of someones, liking it or not. [/QUOTE]
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