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<blockquote data-quote="Geron Raveneye" data-source="post: 3776237" data-attributes="member: 2268"><p>Nope, it's not. But it was funny...I hope you got a grin out of it as well, at least. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree, to most all you said...just would like to add that plot elements, and how they are used, also depend on authorial intend in most places. So it's not intended meaning, but intended usage (or lack thereof) that Tolkien commented on, and the effect said lack has on the plot.</p><p></p><p>When contrasting word of the author with word of critics, I personally prefer the author's word about his piece of work over that of critics. But that's me, and I think I made it clear 4 pages ago that I'm lazy that way. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>And one good question was raised a few posts above...what the heck constitutes "new fantasy" anyway? I admit to not having read most fantasy novels that came out in the last 10-15 years, but from what I've seen on back covers and short review blurbs, it's not THAT different than that from 30 or 40 years ago, except it has grown a few more genre conventions. We got a whole new cultural addition with the far east stuff, be it manga, anime, or fantasy novels, and that of course brings along a lot of new ideas...but honestly, that stuff is on the mass market for the last 15 years as well already, at least here in Europe. And if you look beyond the trappings of cultural symbols and references, the stories told in asian fantasy, myth and legend are not that different from the stories we got told here for decades and centuries. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>By the way, thanks to those who pointed out <em>Twelve Kingdoms</em> and <em>Scrapped Princess</em>...great stories, nice anime.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Geron Raveneye, post: 3776237, member: 2268"] Nope, it's not. But it was funny...I hope you got a grin out of it as well, at least. :) I agree, to most all you said...just would like to add that plot elements, and how they are used, also depend on authorial intend in most places. So it's not intended meaning, but intended usage (or lack thereof) that Tolkien commented on, and the effect said lack has on the plot. When contrasting word of the author with word of critics, I personally prefer the author's word about his piece of work over that of critics. But that's me, and I think I made it clear 4 pages ago that I'm lazy that way. ;) And one good question was raised a few posts above...what the heck constitutes "new fantasy" anyway? I admit to not having read most fantasy novels that came out in the last 10-15 years, but from what I've seen on back covers and short review blurbs, it's not THAT different than that from 30 or 40 years ago, except it has grown a few more genre conventions. We got a whole new cultural addition with the far east stuff, be it manga, anime, or fantasy novels, and that of course brings along a lot of new ideas...but honestly, that stuff is on the mass market for the last 15 years as well already, at least here in Europe. And if you look beyond the trappings of cultural symbols and references, the stories told in asian fantasy, myth and legend are not that different from the stories we got told here for decades and centuries. :) By the way, thanks to those who pointed out [i]Twelve Kingdoms[/i] and [i]Scrapped Princess[/i]...great stories, nice anime. [/QUOTE]
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