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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 9413724" data-attributes="member: 2209"><p>I wouldn't speak in such absolutes about adjusting 5e being too much work for people who like 4e, particularly when you are quoting me saying I like 4e and adjusted 5e to incorporate 4e elements to my liking. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I added a bunch of 4e isms like elite monster design into my 3.5 and pathfinder games, adding them into 5e was easy, the concepts are elegant and mechanically simple to implement in different versions of D&D.</p><p></p><p>The balance is not as tight as 4e and won't be, but 5e is also fairly forgiving in fights with death saves and 4e style overnight healing and 4e style nonmagical healing at short rests so that tight balance is less important than it would have been in say B/X where things can turn deadly very quickly even through mid levels with easy fights and can always turn deadly in an instant with save or die effects. Also I'd say in general 5e is second to 4e in class balance overall. I find the 5e rogue better than the 3e one for balance and power against other classes and leaps and bounds better than any thief from AD&D or Basic or OD&D.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 9413724, member: 2209"] I wouldn't speak in such absolutes about adjusting 5e being too much work for people who like 4e, particularly when you are quoting me saying I like 4e and adjusted 5e to incorporate 4e elements to my liking. :) I added a bunch of 4e isms like elite monster design into my 3.5 and pathfinder games, adding them into 5e was easy, the concepts are elegant and mechanically simple to implement in different versions of D&D. The balance is not as tight as 4e and won't be, but 5e is also fairly forgiving in fights with death saves and 4e style overnight healing and 4e style nonmagical healing at short rests so that tight balance is less important than it would have been in say B/X where things can turn deadly very quickly even through mid levels with easy fights and can always turn deadly in an instant with save or die effects. Also I'd say in general 5e is second to 4e in class balance overall. I find the 5e rogue better than the 3e one for balance and power against other classes and leaps and bounds better than any thief from AD&D or Basic or OD&D. [/QUOTE]
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