Dispel happy Druid

[javcs]

But aren't constructs magic items? Do you not take the Craft Construct feat and follow rules precisely like those detailed for other magic items?

Is there a specific citation making explicit the difference between constructs and other magic items when it comes to dispel magic?

Constructs are creatures, not magic items. And, no, the rules for creating constructs are somewhat different from those for creating magic items.

If Dispel Magic affected constructs, it would say so, it says it affects spells, ongoing spell effects (which includes summons), and magic items. If that construct is under the effects of a spell or has magic items, the spells and magic items may be disabled, but nothing'll happen to the construct.

Are you trying to say that you agree with the player in jason's example in that dispel magic will disable constructs?

 

[Legildur]

Perhaps the player is working from the rule that Dispel Magic will suppress a magical item for 1d4 rounds?

From the SRD under 'Targetted Dispel':

If the object that you target is a magic item, you make a dispel check against the item’s caster level. If you succeed, all the item’s magical properties are suppressed for 1d4 rounds, after which the item recovers on its own. A suppressed item becomes nonmagical for the duration of the effect.

 

[Dross]

Hhhhmmmm, (to be antagonistic)
Going by your comments JG, suggest to the DM that a Dispell Magic will remove all the memorised spells from said druid, with no dispell check. To me it follows the same logic. When Druid cries foul, suggest a collective rules clarification and read again.

Constructs are also imune to ALL spells other than those mentioned, is Dispell Magic one of those spells? Suggest to the DM to read the spell again.

Actually direct him here (to the thread and Enworld in general).

It can be a problem with a newbie DM especially with such a player in the group, but it's the player that is the problem, not the newbie DM.

 

[starwed]

Constructs are also imune to ALL spells other than those mentioned, is Dispell Magic one of those spells? Suggest to the DM to read the spell again.

Golems are only immune to spells which allow spell resistance, and dispel magic does not.

However, although they might appear to magic items, since the Craft Construct feat refers to them as such, they are quite definitely creatures. If constructs were vulnerable to Dispel Magic, it would list this under Construct Traits.

 

[Infiniti2000]

He is a first time DM and he dose not catch everything. I have been trying to help keep this guy in check since he makes alot of . . . shall I say . . . "Mistakes"

You have FAR bigger issues than dispelling constructs. I suggest finding a different group.

 

[Lopke_Quasath]

No offense Infiniti2000, but I think you are a bit hasty in your judgement call.

New DMs have to learn sometime, right? If our players gave up on us when we were just starting out, we wouldn't be the GMs we are today.

 

[hong]

Why do you want to dispel a happy druid? What did the druid ever do to you?

 

[jason_gosse]

You have FAR bigger issues than dispelling constructs. I suggest finding a different group.

That is not an option. the DM is one of my best friends and also i let him use my apartment when we gettogether. but even if that is true i don't give up on some one just so simple I would hope that when i start as DM my players don't just give up so quickly.
also i live in st'johns newfoundland there are not alot og games on the go.

 

[Darklone]

I wouldn't go for a new group either, newbie DMs should be supported by guys/nerds like us to learn how they can improve the gaming fun of their players.

Tell him you guys have been doing it wrong and there are good reasons to do it right, D&D didn't become that old without doing something in the right fashion.

 

[Infiniti2000]

That is not an option. the DM is one of my best friends and also i let him use my apartment when we gettogether. but even if that is true i don't give up on some one just so simple I would hope that when i start as DM my players don't just give up so quickly.
also i live in st'johns newfoundland there are not alot og games on the go.

Well, you're trying to find an in-game solution to an out-of-game problem. The druid player is trying to break the rules, taking advantage of the DM. Do you really think this is a rules question? Next session, you should discuss the issue openly with the group. Maybe the player didn't realize what was happening. More importantly, maybe the DM and other players don't.