Dispelling Just a Spell?

[Hypersmurf]

Hyper, Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the area dispel only affected the spells in its area. So if there was a 5 foot overlap then only that 5 feet would be dispelled.

You're referring to this line from Dispel Magic:
For each ongoing spell whose area overlaps that of the dispel magic spell, you can make a dispel check to end the effect, but only within the overlapping area.

But there's also this:
For each ongoing area or effect spell whose point of origin is within the area of the dispel magic spell, you can make a dispel check to dispel the spell.

And this:
A dispelled spell ends as if its duration had expired.

And finally, from Glitterdust, this:
A cloud of golden particles covers everyone and everything in the area, causing creatures to become blinded and visibly outlining invisible things for the duration of the spell.

Let's say we have a Web spell. If I cast Dispel Magic so that it encompasses a couple of webbed squares, the Web will vanish in those squares, but will remain everywhere else. If I cast it so that it encompasses the point of origin of the Web spell, however - even though there are webbed square that are not within the area of Dispel Magic - the Web spell is dispelled, so all of the Web will disappear.

If I get blinded by Glitterdust, wander away from the point of origin of the spell, and cast an area Dispel Magic centred on myself, the effect on me will end - I'll no longer be blinded or outlined - but the rest of the spell will continue.

However, if I cast an area Dispel Magic that includes the point of origin of the Glitterdust, the spell ends as if its duration had expired. And the blinding and outlining effects explicitly last for the duration of the spell, which just ended.

-Hyp.

 

[Lord Pendragon]

There's no 'risk' involved. You automatically succeed in dispelling spells you cast yourself, with a targeted dispel.

It was my understanding that you could choose to automatically succeed on any dispelling spells you cast on yourself. And in this case, you'd definitely not want to automatically succeed. Am I misremembering? Is there no choice but to automatically succeed against your own spells?

 

[Hypersmurf]

It was my understanding that you could choose to automatically succeed on any dispelling spells you cast on yourself. And in this case, you'd definitely not want to automatically succeed. Am I misremembering? Is there no choice but to automatically succeed against your own spells?

Targeted Dispel: You automatically succeed on your dispel check against any spell that you cast yourself.

Area Dispel: You may choose to automatically succeed on dispel checks against any spell that you have cast.

With Targeted, there's no choice; with Area, there is.

As written.

-Hyp.

 

[Lord Pendragon]

Targeted Dispel: You automatically succeed on your dispel check against any spell that you cast yourself.

Area Dispel: You may choose to automatically succeed on dispel checks against any spell that you have cast.

With Targeted, there's no choice; with Area, there is.

Ouch. Multiple dispels it is then...

 

[noeuphoria]

You're referring to this line from Dispel Magic:
For each ongoing spell whose area overlaps that of the dispel magic spell, you can make a dispel check to end the effect, but only within the overlapping area.

But there's also this:
For each ongoing area or effect spell whose point of origin is within the area of the dispel magic spell, you can make a dispel check to dispel the spell.

And this:
A dispelled spell ends as if its duration had expired.

And finally, from Glitterdust, this:
A cloud of golden particles covers everyone and everything in the area, causing creatures to become blinded and visibly outlining invisible things for the duration of the spell.

Let's say we have a Web spell. If I cast Dispel Magic so that it encompasses a couple of webbed squares, the Web will vanish in those squares, but will remain everywhere else. If I cast it so that it encompasses the point of origin of the Web spell, however - even though there are webbed square that are not within the area of Dispel Magic - the Web spell is dispelled, so all of the Web will disappear.

If I get blinded by Glitterdust, wander away from the point of origin of the spell, and cast an area Dispel Magic centred on myself, the effect on me will end - I'll no longer be blinded or outlined - but the rest of the spell will continue.

However, if I cast an area Dispel Magic that includes the point of origin of the Glitterdust, the spell ends as if its duration had expired. And the blinding and outlining effects explicitly last for the duration of the spell, which just ended.

-Hyp.

Doesnt' Glitterdust have a flat 3 rounds for blindness?

 

[Hypersmurf]

Doesnt' Glitterdust have a flat 3 rounds for blindness?

No.

-Hyp.