divine ascension

[the Jester]

It seems to me that a good way to handle this would be to make it a 20-level prestige class that essentially eventually gave you divine rank 0. This would emulate the 20HD of outsider most gods seem to have, with the class features being increasing domain powers and senses as you go.

Still in developement here, but whatcha think?

 

[Tonguez]

Remember the Immortals set with DnD basic -cool

And 20th levels Monks become outsiders so why not...

 

[Blacksad]

I think that you should go for a 28 level prestige class that grant 20 HD, Upper Krust estimated that the DR 0 was kind of like +8ECL, and I think he is right .

With 20 level, 20 HD prestige class, player who don't take this prestige class will be left a little behind.

If it's a NPC prestige class, do not bother yourself with my advice

 

[the Jester]

Actually I have in mind a prestige class that has increasingly-difficult prereq's for EACH LEVEL, so that you might qualify for 1st-level ascendant (or whatever) but not for 2nd level. Some of the prereqs would involve major quests or accomplishments (yes, Tonguez, hailing back to the immortals set...) such as establishing a dynasty, etc. Of course the prereqs would vary widely depending on the character's path/desired portfolio, so it might be hard to work out.

Of course pcs who don't take this will be left behind; gods don't generally take mortals up to the new celestial palace with them, you know. But if you compare a character who has first-level domain spells vs. one who's just achieved eighth-level wizard spells, well... who can say who's better off! I guess it's going to be hard to make it a balanced prestige class, but the idea of taking 20 levels in a prc with suboptimal abilities (compared to adding 20 levels to another class, many of which will be epic) in order to achieve the big payoff will deter most pcs. Those who persevere through it deserve to win big.

When all is said and done, the trade-off is that the god character gets a lot less "action" cuz s/he's always busy with divine stuff... not dungeon delving and such! So the ascendant (working title) is not exactly for pcs who want to stay active adventurers.

Anyway, still under construction; thanks for the feedback. More??

 

[Crothian]

I like the idea, but it's still really general so it's hard to comment on it. Will you have one general class that works for all dieties? The abilities of the gods vary a lot, and some come from a fighting background, where others come from an arcane background. Would it be easier or hardier for a devoted cleric then an illiterate barbarian?

 

[Blacksad]

Of course pcs who don't take this will be left behind; gods don't generally take mortals up to the new celestial palace with them, you know. But if you compare a character who has first-level domain spells vs. one who's just achieved eighth-level wizard spells, well... who can say who's better off! I guess it's going to be hard to make it a balanced prestige class, but the idea of taking 20 levels in a prc with suboptimal abilities (compared to adding 20 levels to another class, many of which will be epic) in order to achieve the big payoff will deter most pcs. Those who persevere through it deserve to win big.

It depends on how much of the 20 outsider HD you want to reproduce, but remeber that it's d12, fighter bab and 8 skill point per HD, so for a rogue or a fighter, there isn't a lot to loose, that prestige class will interest them.